So also is that other absurdity no less ridiculous,1 which he doth infer touching the infidels, least occasion be given, saith he, to the infidels to laugh it […] scorn: Why should the infidels deride it I beseech you Lombard• you do answer, because it would breed great offence to the unbelievers, who without all question would loath & scorn the Christian religion, if […] should •e• the blood of a slain man in the sacrament. Go to then:* doth this seem to be the cause why the Lord should deliver his body & blood not after a fleshly manner, but under an other form, lest if the Pagans should se• it, they should conceive matter to laugh it too scorn? for this seemeth your allegation with y•• seem also to have •on•ed cunningly out of August. very well• And what shall we say then to the Apostles them selves? were they Pagans & unbelieving also? why did he not give the cup of his blood to his Apostles in his proper nature & kind, where was no danger at all ⟨image 91⟩to procure any mockage? or if he were willing to hide his blood under a sacramental form: answer I pray you, what cause was there why the Lord should vouchsafe the delivery thereof by forms, rather then by material bread? Besides this as concerning the Pagans, if Christ did fear the scornings of Pagans so much, I desire Lombard to tell me thus much again: If some one Pagan should happen too come now into your temples, and behold your massinges & maskings: what greater occasion can be ministered too move them to laughter and scorning, then when he should see the whole swarm of Papists in most humble wise to fall grovelling on the ground, too lift up their hands too heaven, and to knock their breasts at the heaving up of one poor piece of bread over a shavelings head? I beseech you sir: would he not say that they were all the pack of them stark mad? Nay rather do not the Jews, Turks, and Infidels, daily say even so at this present? And I know not whether by any one action more then by this kind of massing, it is come too pass that the same Jews, Turks and Infidels, taking occasion of offence, do as yet hitherto so obstinately abstain from the participation of our faith.
So also is that other absurditie no lesse ridi•ulous,1 which he doth inferre touching the infidels, least oc•asion be giuē, saith he, to the infidels to laugh it 〈…〉 scorne: Why should the infidels deride it I beseeche you Lombard• you do aunswere, bicause it would breede great offence to the vnbeleeuers, who without all question would loath & scorne the Christian religion, if 〈…〉 should •e• the blood of a slaine man in the sacrament. Go to then:* doth this seme to be the cause why ye Lord should deliuer his body & blood not after a fleshly maner, but vnder an other forme, lest if the Pagans should se• it, they should cōceiue matter to laugh it too scorne? for this seemeth your allegati•n wt y•• seeme also to haue •on•ed •onningly out of August. very well• And what shal we say then to the Apostles them selues? were they Pagans & vnbeleeuing also? why did he not giue the cup of his blood to his Apostles in his proper nature & kinde, where was no dāger at all ⟨image 91⟩to procure any mockage? or if hee were willing to hyde his blood vnder a sacramentall forme: aunswere I praye you, what cause was there why the Lorde should vouchsafe the deliuerie thereof by formes, rather then by materiall bread? Besides this as concerning the Paganes, if Christe did feare the scornings of Paganes so much, I desyre Lombard to tell mee thus much againe: If some one Pagane shoulde happen too come nowe into your temples, and beholde your massinges & maskings: what greater occasion can be ministred too mooue them to laughter and skorning, then when hee should see the whole swarme of Papistes in most humble wyse to fall groueling on the grounde, too lifte vp their handes too heauen, and to knocke their breastes at the heauing vp of one poore peece of bread ouer a shauelings head? I beseech you syr: woulde hee not saye that they were all the pack of them starke madde? Nay rather doe not the Iewes, Turkes, and Infidels, dayly saye euen so at this present? And I knowe not whether by any one action more then by this kynde of massing, it is come too passe that the same Iewes, Turkes and Infidelles, taking occasion of offence, do as yet hitherto so obstinately absteyne from the participation of our fayth.
- 1The second reason of Lombard •
- *Ex August. de conse. dist. 2. sub figura. There is nothing more reasonable for us thē to receive the likeness of blood, that so both the trueth may not cease, & that no occasion be given to the Pagans to scorn us, because we drink the blood of a slain ma••Ex August. de conse. dist. 2. sub figura. There is nothing more reasonable for vs thē to receiue the likenesse of blood, that so both the trueth may not cease, & that no occasiō be giuen to the Pagās to scorne vs, bicause we drink the blood of a slain ma••
