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The Pope confuted The holy and apostolic Church confuting the Pope. The first action.…The Pope confuted The holy and apostolique Church confuting the Pope. The first action.…
The Pope confuted The holy and apostolic Church confuting the Pope. The first action. Translated out of Latin into English, by James Bell.The Pope confuted The holy and apostolique Church confuting the Pope. The first action. Translated out of Latine into English, by Iames Bell.
London: printed by Thomas Dawson for Richard Sergier, 1580
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But lest we may not seem to produce as it were this one alone from amongest all other writers, but rather one ou• of many: we do not here so much vouch Augustine himself, as in the name of Augustine specify the general faith, and common consent of the learned fathers in Augustine's time, and in the same Augustine the antiquity of the doctrine touching that matter, to be considered. For what else did the general agreement of the Church proclaim publicly abroad, what do their writings purport unto us at this present, what do their books testify else, then the very same which we profess at this day delivered unto us from those our first teachers? amongest all the which the nearer any one lived to that ancient age of the Apostles, so much the further did he dissent from that newfangled toy of transubstantiation, I should rather have said drowsy dream. The truth whereof being justifiable by many sundry proofs, will yet appear much more abundantly in this, that not one so much of all that primitive & purer age did ever speak word of any such adoring of the sacrament, of any such transubstantiation, reservation, carrying abroad, of any such byhangers and forms without a subject, or of excluding the substance of bread: but all in general with one voice do proclaim that bread and wine is a sign of Christs body & blood:1 some call it a figure,2 others an exemplar, others a type,3 some a likeness and token,4 many a memorial,5 and all with one voice confess too be a sacrament of the body:6 of some the body is said to be represented by the bread, of many too be showed, of others too be signified, and many also too be figured.
But lest we may not seeme to produce as it were this one alone from amongest al other wryters, but rather one ou• of many: we doo not heere so much vouch Augustine himselfe, as in the name of Augustine specifie the general faith, and common consent of the learned fathers in Augustines time, and in the same Augustine the antiquitie of the doctrine touching that matter, to be considered. For what els did the generall agreement of the Churche proclaime publiquely abroade, what do their wrytinges purport vnto vs at this present, what do their bookes testifie els, then the very same which wee professe at this day deliuered vnto vs from those our first teachers? amongest all the which the neerer any one liued to that auncient age of the Apostles, so much the further did he dissent from that newfangled toy of transubstātiatiō, I should rather haue said dousy dreame. The truth wherof beeing iustifiable by many sundry proofes, wil yet appeare much more abū dantly in this, that not one so much of al that primitiue & purer age did euer speake woord of any such adoring of the sacrament, of any such transubstantiation, reseruatiō, carrying abroade, of any such byhangers and fourmes without a subiect, or of excluding the substance of bread: but al ingeneral with one voyce do proclaime that bread and wine is a signe of Christs body & blood: