A01532:366
A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation wherein the same is declared, by…A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation vvherein the same is declared, by…
A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation wherein the same is declared, by the confession of their own writers, to have no necessary ground in Gods Word: as also it is further demonstrated to be against Scripture, nature, sense, reason, religion, and the judgement of t5xxauncients, and the faith of our ancestors: written by Thomas Gataker B. of D. and pastor of Rotherhith.A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation vvherein the same is declared, by the confession of their owne writers, to haue no necessary ground in Gods Word: as also it is further demonstrated to be against Scripture, nature, sense, reason, religion, and the iudgement of t5xxauncients, and the faith of our auncestours: written by Thomas Gataker B. of D. and pastor of Rotherhith.
London: printed by John for William Sheffard, 1624London: printed by Iohn for William Sheffard, 1624
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3. He addeth in the end: These men herein without heretical intention, or obstinacy of judgement differed from us. Whom he meaneth by that, Us, I leave to himself to explain: And the less heretical their intention was (as he understandeth heretical) the less suspicion there is of collusion or any purpose therein to gratify us; and ⟨p. 132⟩so much the stronger therefore is their testimony for us. *The testimony of a mere stranger, or no well-willer to the cause maketh it to be of more moment. But when he speaketh of obstinacy of judgement, he glanceth at a secret in their Church, which I shall in a word or two take occasion hereby to discover. It is no matter what a man hold or maintain among them, so long as he acknowledgeth the Popes Supremacy, the main pillar of their faith, and submit himself and his works wholly to his censure, and so be ready to unsay what he saith, when he will have him so to do. For his censure indeed alone is that which they call commonly the censure of the Church. And to this purpose they confess that many of their writers have held the very same points, for which they condemn us now as Heretics, of whom yet they say that they were not Heretics, because they submitted themselves to this Censure. I will add an instance or two hereof out of Bellarmine.
3. He addeth in the end: These men herein without hereticall intention, or obstin•cie of iudgement differed from vs. Whom he meaneth by that, Vs, I leaue to himselfe to explaine: And the lesse hereticall their intention was (as he vnderstandeth hereticall) the lesse suspition there is of collusion or any purpose therein to gratifie vs; and ⟨p. 132⟩so much the stronger therefore is their testimonie for vs. *The testimonie of a meere stranger, or no well-willer to the cause maketh it to be of more moment. But when he speaketh of obstinacie of iudgement, he glaunceth at a secret in their Church, which I shall in a word or two take occasion hereby to discouer. It is no matter what a man hold or maintaine among them, so long as he acknowledgeth the Popes Supremacie, the maine pillar of their faith, and submit himselfe and his workes wholly to his censure, and so be ready to vnsay what he saith, when he will haue him so to doe. For his censure indeede alone is that which they call commonly the censure of the Church. And to this purpose they confesse that many of their writers haue held the very same points, for which they condemne vs now as Heretikes, of whom yet they say that they were not Heretikes, because they submitted themselues to this Censure. I will adde an instance or two hereof out of Bellarmine.