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A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation wherein the same is declared, by…A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation vvherein the same is declared, by…
A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation wherein the same is declared, by the confession of their own writers, to have no necessary ground in Gods Word: as also it is further demonstrated to be against Scripture, nature, sense, reason, religion, and the judgement of t5xxauncients, and the faith of our ancestors: written by Thomas Gataker B. of D. and pastor of Rotherhith.A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation vvherein the same is declared, by the confession of their owne writers, to haue no necessary ground in Gods Word: as also it is further demonstrated to be against Scripture, nature, sense, reason, religion, and the iudgement of t5xxauncients, and the faith of our auncestours: written by Thomas Gataker B. of D. and pastor of Rotherhith.
London: printed by John for William Sheffard, 1624London: printed by Iohn for William Sheffard, 1624
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1. Augustine telleth us that something is seen in the Sacrament, and something else is to be believed. But doth Augustine tell us that we must not believe that there is bread there, though our eyes inform us, that there is? ⟨p. 155⟩No: He telleth us expressly, that there is bread there, as our eyes do inform us. And what can be more evidently or plainly spoken? Yea but he addeth withal, that our faith informeth us that the bread is Christs body. Yea but, saith Bellarmine, that sentence is most absurd and impossible, if it be not meant figuratively. In which manner Augustine (as before was showed) expoundeth himself else-where.
1. Augustine telleth vs that something is seene in the Sacrament, and something else is to bee belieued. But doth Augustine tell vs that wee must not beleeue that there is bread there, though our eyes informe vs, that there is? ⟨p. 155⟩No: He telleth vs expressely, that there is bread there, as our eyes doe informe vs. And what can be more euidently or plainely spoken? Yea but hee addeth withall, that our faith informeth vs that the bread is Christs body. Yea but, saith Bellarmine, that sentence is most absurd and impossible, if it be not meant figuratiuely. In which manner Augustine (as before was shewed) expoundeth himselfe else-where.
2. Do the Fathers tell us that in this holy Mystery we must not so much regard what our sense informeth us, as what our faith apprehendeth? And do they not say the same of Baptism, and of all mysteries or Sacraments in general? Hear we one or two of them speak for all. The Fathers of the Nicene Council, whom before he alleged: *Our Baptism (say they) must not with bodily eyes be considered, but with spiritual. Seest thou water? understand the power of God hidden in it: conceive it full of the holy Ghost,