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A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation wherein the same is declared, by…A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation vvherein the same is declared, by…
A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation wherein the same is declared, by the confession of their own writers, to have no necessary ground in Gods Word: as also it is further demonstrated to be against Scripture, nature, sense, reason, religion, and the judgement of t5xxauncients, and the faith of our ancestors: written by Thomas Gataker B. of D. and pastor of Rotherhith.A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation vvherein the same is declared, by the confession of their owne writers, to haue no necessary ground in Gods Word: as also it is further demonstrated to be against Scripture, nature, sense, reason, religion, and the iudgement of t5xxauncients, and the faith of our auncestours: written by Thomas Gataker B. of D. and pastor of Rotherhith.
London: printed by John for William Sheffard, 1624London: printed by Iohn for William Sheffard, 1624
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§ 3. Yea but our Saviour himself (he saith) solveth this Objection, John 6. 61. as Chrysostom understandeth him, when he saith, Doth this scandalize you? What if you shall see the Son of Man ascending where he was before, &c? as if he had said; Are you scandalized because I said being now, present with you, I will give my flesh for food? What then will you do, or how far will you be from believing that I can so give you my flesh when I shall ascend to heaven, and be so far above from you?
§ 3. Yea but our Saviour himselfe (he saith) solveth this Obiection, Iohn 6. 61. as Chrysostome vnderstandeth him, when hee saith, Doth this scandalize you? What if you shall see the Sonne of Man ascending where hee was before, &c? as if hee had said; Are you scandalized because I said being now, present with you, I will giue my flesh for food? What then will you doe, or how farre will you be from beleeuing that I can so giue you my flesh when I shall ascend to heauen, and be so farre aboue from you?
1. Where Chrysostom thus expoundeth the place, I know not. Upon the place (I am sure) he hath nothing but this, that aChrist by these words did intimate to them his Deity. Yea so bJansenius also saith, that Chrysostom understandeth these words as spoken to assure them that he came down from heaven. The truth is; this exposition it not Chrysostoms, but Bellarmines, (from whom this Collector hath filched it) who yet to add some grace and procure some weight to an invention of his own, saith that c Chrysostom to him seemeth to point at some such thing. 3And what Bellarmine saith cautiously, and timorously, Chrysostom to him seemeth to point at; that this blind bayard saith boldly and confidently, that Chrysostom saith; and upon the Exposition as backed now sufficiently with Chrysostom, he buildeth a peremptory answer to all mine Objections, that will easily remove them all. Did this man think that these things would ever be examined? Or is his credit so mean already that he need not fear to be discredited, that he dare use such sorry shifts as these are?