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A just defence of certain passages in a former treatise concerning the nature and…A iust defence of certaine passages in a former treatise concerning the nature and…
A just defence of certain passages in a former treatise concerning the nature and use of lots, against such exceptions and oppositions as have been made thereunto to Mr. I.B. Wherein the insufficiency of his answers given to the arguments brought in defence of a lusorious lot is manifested; the imbecility of his arguments produced against the same further discovered; and the point it self in controversy more fully cleared; by Thomas Gataker B. of D. and author of the former treatise.A iust defence of certaine passages in a former treatise concerning the nature and vse of lots, against such exceptions and oppositions as have beene made thereunto to Mr. I.B. Wherein the insufficiencie of his answers giuen to the arguments brought in defence of a lusorious lot is manifested; the imbecillitie of his arguments produced against the same further discouered; and the point it selfe in controuersie more fully cleared; by Thomas Gataker B. of D. and author of the former treatise.
London: printed by John Haviland for Robert Bird, 1623London: printed by Iohn Haviland for Robert Bird, 1623
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I. B. So that from Mr. Gs. axiom this Argument may be framed. An immediate providence in an extraordinary Lot is acknowledged by Mr. G. as it is a Lot (say I) wholly disposed by God: Therefore an immediate providence is in an ordinary Lot, (as it is a Lot) wholly disposed by God. For there is no difference between these sorts of Lots (as they be Lots) and so disposed. For Mr. G. hath showed that Prou. 16. 33. speaketh as well of one sort of Lots, as of another.
I. B. So that from Mr. Gs. axiome this Argument may be framed. An immediate prouidence in an extraordinary Lot is acknowledged by Mr. G. as it is a Lot (say I) wholly disposed by God: Therefore an immediate prouidence is in an ordinary Lot, (as it is a Lot) wholly disposed by God. For there is no difference betweene these sorts of Lots (as they be Lots) and so disposed. For Mr. G. hath shewed that Prou. 16. 33. speaketh as well of one sort of Lots, as of another.
T. G. How this that followeth cometh in with a, ⟨p. 193⟩So that, I know not. Yet let us see what it is. Mr. G. he saith, hath showed, (I grant it indeed, but I show it not; it is he that should show it, or he will never be able to convince those that say otherwise) that Prou. 16. 33 speaketh of Lots in general as well ordinary as extraordinary. Be it so, what of that? But I acknowledge also an immediate providence in an extraordinary Lot; and that is therein as it is a Lot; saith Mr. B. and therefore by Mr. Gs. Axiom, it must be so in an ordinary one also. For this I suppose it is that he would say. But he must first show where I acknowledge an immediate providence to be in every extraordinary Lot, which I deny to be in many thousands of them: and then prove it to be in such a Lot as it is a Lot; which to affirm and not prove, is to require that in effect without proof to be granted, which all the controversy is about, and which he must not think will be yielded upon his bare, I say.