1But Lord, what men, trow ye, be these that find fault with dissensions amongest us? Do they all agree amongst themselves? Hath every one of them well advised ⟨p. 21⟩himself what way to follow? Was there never no dissensions, no brawls amongst them? How happeneth it then that the Scotists and the Thomists do agree no better about merits of conveniency,2 and merits of duty: about original sin in the blessed virgin, about a solemn and a simple vow? why do the Canonists say, that ear confession is ordained by humane & positive law, and the Schoolmen contrary, by gods law? Why doth Albert Pighius dissent from the Cardinal of Caieta, Thomas from Lombard, Scotus from Thomas, Occam from the Scot, Alliensis from Occam, the Nominals from the Reals? And although we pass over the infinite dissensions of Friars and Monks, whereof some of them do appoint their holiness to be in fish, some in herbs, some in shoes, some in slippers, some in a linen garment, some in a woollen, some go in white, some in black, some are shaven broader, some narrower, some are shod, some are barefoot, some girded, some ungirded: yet they ought to remember that there be some among them that say. the body of Christ is present in the supper naturally:3 again there be some even of their own company also that deny it: that there be some that say the body of Christ in the holy Communion is torn and crushed with teeth:4 again there be some that deny it: that there be some that write that the body of Christ in the sacrament hath quantity and bigness, on the other side there be some that deny it: that there be some that say, Christ did Consecrate by a certain power of divinity, some it by blessing, some by five specially prescribed words: some by repeating of the self same five words, some also that in those five words, by the Pronoun demonstrative, ⟨image 22⟩Hoc, that is to say, This, think that the bread of wheat is pointed to:5 some think rather that a certain thing which they call Individuum uagum, is showed thereby: that there be some that say, dogs and mice may truly and in very deed eat the body of Christ, some again that steadfastly deny it: that there be also some that say,6 that the accidences of bread and wine may nourish, some that say the substance returneth again. What needeth any more?
1But Lorde, what men, trowe ye, be these that fynde faulte with dissensions amongest vs? Do thei all agree amongst themselfe? Hathe euery one of them wel aduysed ⟨p. 21⟩himselfe what waye to folowe? Was there neuer no dissensions, no braules amongst them? How happeneth it then that the Scotistes and the Thomistes do agree no better about merytes of conueniency,2 and merites of duety: about oryginall sinne in the blessed virgine, about a solemne and a simple vowe? why doe the Canonistes say, that eare confession is ordained by humayne & positiue law, and the Schoolemē contrary, by gods law? Why doth Albert Pighius dissent from the Cardinall of Caieta, Thomas from Lumbarde, Scotus from Thomas, Occame frō the Scot, Alliensis from Occame, the Nominales from the Reales? And although we passe ouer the infinite dissensions of Friers and Monkes, wherof some of them doe appoint their holines to be in fishe, some in herbes, some in shooes, some in slippers, some in a linnen garment, some in a wollen, some go in white, some in blacke, some are shauen broder, some narrower, some are shodde, some are barefoote, some girded, some vngirded: yet they ought to remember that there be some among them that say. the body of Christ is present in the supper naturallye:3 againe there be some euen of their owne company also that deny it: that there be some that saye the bodye of Christ in the holy Communion is torne and crusshed wt teeth:4 againe there be some that deny it: that there be some that write that the body of Christ in the sacramēt hath quantite and bygnesse, on the other syde there be some that denye it: that there be some that saye, Christ did Consecrate by a certaine power of diuinitie, some yt by blessing, some by fiue specially prescribed wordes: some by repeting of the selfe same fiue wordes, some also that in those fiue wordes, by the Pronoune demonstratiue, ⟨image 22⟩Hoc, that is to say, This, thinke that the bread of wheate is pointed to:5 some thinke rather that a certayne thynge whych they call Indiuiduum uagum, is shewed therby: that there be some that saye, dogges and mise maye truely and in very deede eate the bodye of Christe, some againe that stedfastlye denye it: that there be also some that say,
- 1Sects and Dissensions of the PapistsSectes and Dissensions of the Papists
- 2De merito c•• grui & co•• dig ni.
- 3Stephan Ga••diner in the Devils sophi. Richard. Faber.Stephan Ga••diner in the Diuels sophi. Richard. Faber.
- 4Recantatio Berengari, Scholae, & Glosa. Guimandus do con. dist. 2. Ego Beren▪ Thomas.Recantatio Berengari, Scholae, & Glosa. Guimādus do con. dist. 2. Ego Beren▪ Thomas.
- 5Gardinerus.
- 6De consecra. dist. 2. Species in Glosa.
