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A defence of the Apology of the Church of England containing an answer to…A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to…
A defence of the Apology of the Church of England containing an answer to a certain book lately set forth by M. Harding, and entitled, A confutation of &c. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Elephant, by Henry Wykes, Anno 1567. 27. OctobrisImprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Elephante, by Henry VVykes, Anno 1567. 27. Octobris
Part 2 › The Apology. › The B. of Salisbury.Part 2 › The Apologie. › The B. of Sarisburie.
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M. Harding saith, that the Meat, whereof Origen speaketh, is a Material, (for this is the Light, and clearness of his Eloquence) but not Materia: and by this pretty distinction he thinketh, the whole matter is fully discharged. And amongst the ignorant, that cannot judge, perhaps he may seem to say somewhat. But Origen him self, that best understood his own meaning, calleth the same Meat, in the same place, by express, and plain words, not only a thing Material, but also the very Matter of Bread it self: His words be these: Nec Materia Panis, 1sed super illum dictus sermo est, qui prodest non indignè Domino comedenti: It is not the Matter of the Bread, but the word spoken over it, that profiteth him, that Eateth not unworthily for the Lord. Now Judge thou indifferently. Gentle Reader, how just causes M. Harding had, to move these Tragedies.
M. Hardinge saithe, that the Meate, whereof Origen speaketh, is a Material, (for this is the Light, and clearenesse of his Eloquence) but not Materia: and by this pretie distinction he thinketh, the whole mater is fully discharged. And emongste the ignorante, that cannot iudge, perhaps he maie seeme to saie somewhat. But Origen him selfe, that beste vnderstoode his owne meaninge, calleth the same Meate, in the same place, by expresse, and plaine woordes, not onely a thinge Material, but also the very Mater of Breade it selfe: His woordes be these: Nec Materia Panis, 1sed super illum dictus sermo est, qui prodest non indignè Domino comedenti: It is not the Mater of the Breade, but the woorde spoken ouer it, that profiteth him, that Eateth not vnwoorthily for the Lorde. Nowe Iudge thou indifferently. Gentle Reader, how iust causes M. Hardinge had, to moue these Tragedies.
- 1Origen. in Matt. Cap. 15.
Further he saith, It liked our filthy Sprite, with vile words to bring the Holy Mysteries into contempt, and therein do the Devil great service. O, M. Harding, some other speech would better become a man of your gravity. Such liquor seldom floweth from the Sprite of God. We neither increase, or diminish, nor any way alter the words of Origen: but lay them forth plainly, and simply, as we find them. For thus he writeth: Ille Cibus, qui sanctificatur per Verbū Dei, & per Obsecrationem, juxta id, quod habet Materiale, in Ventram abit, & in secessum eijcitur. Coeterùm juxta precationē, quae illi accessit, pro portione Fidei fit utilis: The Meat that is Sanctified by the Word of God, and by Prayer, according to that Material part, that is in it, passeth into the belly, and so forth into the Privy, &c. If there be any Filthiness or Villainy herein, it is this Ancient Fathers, whom ye ought not so uncourteously to revile for Uncleanness of Sprite: it is not ours.