What Sylvester Prierlât sayeth. I mind not here to discuss.‡ Neither where he saith, that you allege, have you thought good to tell us, lest. by perusing the place, we should take you in a lie, as we have almost in all your other allegations. The like sincerity you use in alleging Pighius. We bind our selves neither to the words of Sylvester, nor of Pighius. If they err, what is that to us? Let them bear their own burden. If they tell truth, we believe them for truths sake. If otherwise, we leave that part for you to carp. If Sylvester Prierias said, that for points of belief, the Doctrine of the Romaine Church is a squire to try their truth by: the same* being well understanded is right true. Likewise if Pighius say, that the Romaine Church showeth unto us, which be the approved and undoubted scriptures, and which be not: this is so true, as your self (I suppose) will yield thereunto. As for that the scripture received from the Church of Rome Authority, credit, and force:‡ if in your meaning you exclude God, that is your lie, not Sylvester's sentence. If relation be made to us, that we ought not give credit unto it,* onlesse it had ben showed to be holy scripture by the Romaine Church, which is the true Church of Christ: in this sense, be it Sylvester, or who else so ever saith it, it is a true saying, and agreeable to S. Augustine,5 Ego Evangelio non crederem, nisi me Catholicae Ecclesiae commueret Authoritas. I would not believe the Gospel, except the Authority of the Catholic Church moved me. And for that you allege out of him, touching indulgences, truth it is, the full, and whole knowledge of them is not plainly opened unto us, by express and evident words of Scripture, no more then the mystery of the blessed Trinity, baptizing of infants, and many other truths: but rather by the doctrine of the Romaine Church.
VVhat Syluester Prierlât saieth. I minde not here to discusse.‡ Neither where he saithe, that you alleage, haue you thought good to tel vs, lest. by perusinge the place, we shoulde take you in a lie, as we haue almoste in al your other allegations. The like sinceritie you use in alleaginge Pighius. VVe binde our selues neither to the wordes of Syluester, nor of Pighius. If they erre, what is that to vs? Let them beare theire owne burthen. If they tel truth, we beleue them for truthes sake. If otherwise, we leaue that parte for you to carpe. If Syluester Prierias saide, that for pointes of belefe, the Doctrine of the Romaine Churche is a squire to trie theire truthe by: the same* beinge wel vnderstanded is right true. Likewise if Pighius saie, that the Romaine Churche sheweth vnto vs, which be the approued and vndoubted scriptures, and whiche be not: this is so true, as your selfe (I suppose) wil yelde thereunto. As for that the scripture receiued from the Churche of Rome Authoritie, credite, and force:‡ if in your meaninge you exclude God, that is your lie, not Syluesters sentence. If relation be made to vs, that we ought not geue credite vnto it,* onlesse it had ben shewed to be holy scripture by the Romaine Church, whiche is the true Churche of Christe: in this sense, be it Syluester, or who els so euer saithe it, it is a true saieinge, and agreable to S. Augustine,5 Ego Euangelio non crederem, nisi me Catholicae Ecclesiae commueret Authoritas. I woulde not beleue the Gospel, except the Auctoritie of the Catholike Churche moued me. And for that you alleage out of him, touchinge indulgences, truthe it is, the ful, and whole knowledge of them is not plainely opened vnto vs, by expresse and euident wordes of Scripture, no more then the mysterie of the blessed Trinitie, baptizinge of infantes, and many other truthes: but rather by the doctrine of the Romaine Churche.
- ‡It is easil•• found in […] Book, […] Lutherum.It is easil•• founde in 〈…〉 Booke, 〈…〉 Lutherum.
- *A comm•••rie beside […] Text.A comm•••rie biside 〈…〉 Texte.
- ‡A proper Gloss.A proper Glose.
- *Vanity of Vanities: For the Scriptures were known, and believed, before there was any Church in Rome.Vanitie of Vanities: For the Scriptures vvere knovven, and beleued, before there vvas any Churche in Rome.
- 5Contra Epist. Fundamenti. ca. 5.