As for Nicolaus Lyra, ye doubt of our dealing, for that the Printer hath not quoted the place. 1It may please you therefore to peruse his notes upon the xvi. Chapter of S. Matthew. There among other ye shall find these words: 2Ex hoc patet, quo'd Ecclesia non consistit in hominibus, ratione Potestatis, vel Dignitatis Ecclesiasticae, vel Saecularis: Quia multi principes, & Summi Pontifices inuenti sunt apostatasse à Fide: Hereby it appeareth, that the Church standeth not in men, in consideration, either of their Power, or of their Dignity, either Ecclesiastical, or Temporal. For many Princes, and Popes have been found to have strayed from the Faith.3 Therefore Baldus saithe, Cautela est, quo'd quis dicat, Credo, quod credit Sancta Mater Ecclesia: non, quod credit Papa: It is to be marked, that a man many say, I believe, that the Church believeth: but not, I believe, that the Pope believeth. Ye say, Christ prayed for Peter: Ergo, the Pope cannot err. But where was Christs Prayer then, when so many Heretics were Popes in Rome? Will ye say, that Christ prayed for Arians, for Nestorians, for Montanists, for Monothelites, for Simonists, for Idolaters, for Necromancers, for Poisoners, for Murderers, & for Dame Joan too? Or, that by the virtue of Christs Prayer, none of these could ever Err? Or, y• the Popes Errors must go for Truth, or his Heresies be holden as Right Religion, only because you tell us, that, what so ever he say, He cannot Err? O M. Harding, I showed you before, y• Christ prayed, not only for Peter, but also for all the rest of his Disciples. Origen saith, as he is before alleged, 4Num audebimus dicere, quo'd aduersus unum Petrum non praevaliturae sint Porrae Inferorum: aduersus coeteros Apostolos praevaliturae sint? Shall we dare to san• that the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against only Peter? and that the same Gates shall prevail against all other the Apostles? 5S. Cyprian saith, Rogabat pro delictis nostris, sicut iple declarat, cùm dicit ad Petrum: Ego Rogavi pro te, ne deficiat Fides tua: Christe prayed (not for Peter only, but) for our sins, as he him self declareth, saying unto Peter, I have prayed for thee, that thy Faith should not fail. S. Augustine, expounding the same words, 6saith thus: Ego rogavi Patrem pro vobis, ne deficiat Fides vestra:
As for Nicolaus Lyra, yée doubte of our dealinge, for that the Printer hath not quoted the place. 1It maie please you therefore to peruse his notes vpon the xvi. Chapter of S. Mathevve. There emonge other ye shal finde these woordes: 2Ex hoc patet, quo'd Ecclesia non consistit in hominibus, ratione Potestatis, vel Dignitatis Ecclesiasticae, vel Saecularis: Quia multi principes, & Summi Pontifices inuenti sunt apostatasse à Fide: Hereby it appeareth, that the Church standeth not in men, in consideration, either of theire Power, or of theire Dignitie, either Ecclesiastical, or Temporal. For many Princes, and Popes haue benne founde to haue straied from the Faithe.3 Therefore Baldus saithe, Cautela est, quo'd quis dicat, Credo, quod credit Sancta Mater Ecclesia: non, quod credit Papa: It is to be marked, that a man many saie, I beleue, that the Churche beleueth: but not, I beleue, that the Pope beleueth. Yée saie, Christe praied for Peter: Ergo, the Pope cannot erre. But where was Christes Praier then, when so many Heretiques were Popes in Rome? Wil yée saie, that Christe praied for Arians, for Nestorians, for Montanistes, for Monothelites, for Simonistes, for Idolaters, for Necromancers, for Poisoners, for Murtherers, & for Dame Iohane too? Or, that by the vertue of Christes Praier, none of these could euer Erre? Or, y• the Popes Erroures must goe for Truthe, or his Heresies be holden as Right Religion, onely bicause you telle vs, that, what so euer he saie, He cannot Erre? O M. Hardinge, I shewed you before, y• Christe praied, not onely for Peter, but also for al the reste of his Disciples. Origen saithe, as he is before alleged, 4Num audebimus dicere, quo'd aduersus vnum Petrum non praeualiturae sint Porrae Inferorum: aduersus coeteros Apostolos praeualiturae sint? Shal wee dare to san• yt the Gates of Helle shal not preuaile againste onely Peter? and that ye same Gates shal preuaile against al other the Apostles? 5S. Cyprian saith, Rogabat pro delictis nostris, sicut iple declarat, cùm dicit ad Petrum: Ego Rogaui pro te, ne deficiat Fides tua: Christe praied (not for Peter onely, but) for our sinnes, as he him selfe declareth, saieing vnto Peter, I haue praied for thee, that thy Faith should not faile. S. Augustine, expoūding the same woordes,
- 1Schola di Errori, e Tempio di Eresia.
- 2Nicol. Lyra in Matthae. Cap. 16.
- 3Baldus de offic. praesid. L. Saepe.
- 4Orig. in Matth. Tractat. 2.
- 5Cyprian. in Orationem Dominicam.
- 6Aug. De Verbis Domi. second. Lucam Sern. 36 Chryso. in Matthae. Homil. 33.Aug. De Verbis Domi. secund. Lucam Sern. 36 Chryso. in Matthae. Homil. 33.
