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A defence of the Apology of the Church of England containing an answer to…A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to…
A defence of the Apology of the Church of England containing an answer to a certain book lately set forth by M. Harding, and entitled, A confutation of &c. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Elephant, by Henry Wykes, Anno 1567. 27. OctobrisImprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Elephante, by Henry VVykes, Anno 1567. 27. Octobris
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As for Nicolaus Lyra, ye doubt of our dealing, for that the Printer hath not quoted the place. 1It may please you therefore to peruse his notes upon the xvi. Chapter of S. Matthew. There among other ye shall find these words: 2Ex hoc patet, quo'd Ecclesia non consistit in hominibus, ratione Potestatis, vel Dignitatis Ecclesiasticae, vel Saecularis: Quia multi principes, & Summi Pontifices inuenti sunt apostatasse à Fide: Hereby it appeareth, that the Church standeth not in men, in consideration, either of their Power, or of their Dignity, either Ecclesiastical, or Temporal. For many Princes, and Popes have been found to have strayed from the Faith.3 Therefore Baldus saithe, Cautela est, quo'd quis dicat, Credo, quod credit Sancta Mater Ecclesia: non, quod credit Papa: It is to be marked, that a man many say, I believe, that the Church believeth: but not, I believe, that the Pope believeth. Ye say, Christ prayed for Peter: Ergo, the Pope cannot err. But where was Christs Prayer then, when so many Heretics were Popes in Rome? Will ye say, that Christ prayed for Arians, for Nestorians, for Montanists, for Monothelites, for Simonists, for Idolaters, for Necromancers, for Poisoners, for Murderers, & for Dame Joan too? Or, that by the virtue of Christs Prayer, none of these could ever Err? Or, y• the Popes Errors must go for Truth, or his Heresies be holden as Right Religion, only because you tell us, that, what so ever he say, He cannot Err? O M. Harding, I showed you before, y• Christ prayed, not only for Peter, but also for all the rest of his Disciples. Origen saith, as he is before alleged, 4Num audebimus dicere, quo'd aduersus unum Petrum non praevaliturae sint Porrae Inferorum: aduersus coeteros Apostolos praevaliturae sint? Shall we dare to san• that the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against only Peter? and that the same Gates shall prevail against all other the Apostles? 5S. Cyprian saith, Rogabat pro delictis nostris, sicut iple declarat, cùm dicit ad Petrum: Ego Rogavi pro te, ne deficiat Fides tua: Christe prayed (not for Peter only, but) for our sins, as he him self declareth, saying unto Peter, I have prayed for thee, that thy Faith should not fail. S. Augustine, expounding the same words,