A04468:4153
A defence of the Apology of the Church of England containing an answer to…A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to…
A defence of the Apology of the Church of England containing an answer to a certain book lately set forth by M. Harding, and entitled, A confutation of &c. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Elephant, by Henry Wykes, Anno 1567. 27. OctobrisImprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Elephante, by Henry VVykes, Anno 1567. 27. Octobris
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But ye say, they be both the persons guilty, and the Judges also. Judges doubtless they be. For their vocation is lawful, ye cannot disprove it. Guilty also they be, we deny not: but whereof? Of frail living, not of false teaching. (for commonly they teach nothing). And where? In the court of conscience,‡ not in the court of man. Or if any of them be, both before this council, ⟨p. 624⟩and in this council godly orders have been decreed for wholesome reformation.2
But ye saie, they be bothe the persons giltie, and the Iudges also. Iudges doubtelesse they be. For their vocation is lawfull, ye cannot disproue it. Guilty also they be, we denie not: but whereof? Of fraile liuinge, not of false teachinge. (for commonly they teache nothinge). And where? In the courte of conscience,‡ not in the courte of man. Or if any of them be, bothe before this councell, ⟨p. 624⟩and in this councell godly orders haue benne decreed for holesome reformation.2
- ‡Untruth. For their life is notorious to the world.Vntruthe. For their life is notorious to the vvorlde.
- 2Monks, Friars, Nuns.Monkes, Freeres, Nunnes.
As for Monks, ye may not look now, that either they get their living only by their hands labour, or that they be bound to the hard discipline, which Monks lived in, for twelve hundred years paste. Now be other days, other manners. Such great austerity is to be wondered at, and to be wished for. But whether the Religious men of our time be to be compelled thereto, I leave it to wise consideration. If it may be lawful to direct us in such spiritual cases, by an old example of extern prudence, me thinketh the discretion of Jacobs answer to his Brother Esau is worth to be thought on. When sau courteously offered his brother Jacob returning from Mesopotamia with all his train of household and cattle, to go with him, and keep him company, the rest of the journey that remained from the place of their first meeting: Jacob full mildly said, Sir, you know, if it like your Lordship,