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A defence of the Apology of the Church of England containing an answer to…A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to…
A defence of the Apology of the Church of England containing an answer to a certain book lately set forth by M. Harding, and entitled, A confutation of &c. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Elephant, by Henry Wykes, Anno 1567. 27. OctobrisImprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Elephante, by Henry VVykes, Anno 1567. 27. Octobris
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M. Harding.
M. Hardinge.
Ye would fallen remove us from a good hold, I see well, which is the Authority of the Holy Fathers, of Ancient Traditions, and of the Universal Church. Al these would ye to be of no force against Heretics. For ye know the Fathers and the Church to be against you, and that so long as they are believed, your Doctrine shall not be received, as always found to be new, and of private devise. If we were driven from these, ye doubt not but to match us well enough in the Scriptures. And as ye would handle the matter, I think so my self verily. For when all Authority and judgement of the Fathers and of the Church is shaken quite of in any controversy, by whom shall we be tried? By the Scriptures, ye say. But when both ye and we allege Scriptures to a contrary purpose, and when we vary about the sense of the Scriptures, by whom then shall we be judged? Perhaps ye will refer the judgement of doubtful matters, to the Holy Ghost. We refuse not the arbitrement and Umpireship of the Holy Ghost. For the same hath ben promised by Christ to the Church, to remain with the Church for ever, to teach what things so ever he said, to lead men into all Truth.
Ye would falne remoue vs from a good hold, I see wel, whiche is the Authoritie of the Holy Fa•thers, of Ancient Traditions, and of the Vniuersal Churche. Al these would ye to be of no force against Heretiques. For ye knowe the Fathers and the Churche to be againste you, and that so longe as they are beleued, your Doctrine shal not be receiued, as alwaies founde to be newe, and of priuate deu•se. If we were driuen from these, ye doubt not but to matche vs wel yenough in the Scriptures. And as ye would handle the mater, I thinke so my selfe verely. For when al Authoritie and iudgemente of the Fathers and of the Churche is shakē quite of in any cōtrouersie, by whome shal we be tried? By the Scriptures, ye saie. But when bothe ye and we alleage Scriptures to a contrary purpose, and when we vary about the sense of the Scriptures, by whom then shal we be iudged? Perhaps ye wil referre the iudgement of doubtful maters, to the Holy Ghoste. VVe refuse not tharbitrement and Vmpiership of the Holy Ghoste. For the same hath ben promised by Christe to the Churche, to remaine with the Churche for euer, to teache what thinges so euer he saide, to lead men into al Truthe.