A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare

He is learned, and hath read much: he is eloquent, and can utter much: yea he is able to make nothing to appear somewhat, and a little to seem much.

He is learned, and hath reade muche: he is eloquent, and canne vtter muche: yea he is hable to make nothinge to appeare somewhat, and a little to séeme much.

He hath had good conference with as many, as he thought meet, either within this Realm, or without. He hath seen, what so ever hath been written by Coclaeus, Eckius, Pigghius, Hofmeister, Michael Vaehe, Hosius, Staphylus, and such other of that sort. He hath had five whole years and more, to order, and digest his Book. It toucheth him very near, that any man should be so bold to say, They have defrauded the people of half the Sacrament, and yet can allege nothing for it. He showeth him self much offended, and therefore spareth not his familiar terms, Heretics, Schismatics, Adversaries of the Church, God's Enemies, and such like. Yet having so much learning, so much eloquence, so much conference, so much study, so much leisure, being so affected, and so offended, yet hath he not hitherto brought one word, either of ancient Council, or of old Doctor, to prove that thing that is denied: that is, that the Sacrament was ever Ministered unto the people in one Kind, Openly in any Congregation, or in the open order and usage of any Church. Yet were there Churches then erected: yet were there Priests and people then: yet was the holy Ministration then openly used in form, and order: and learned men to record the same. Al this not withstanding, M. Harding hath hitherto found nothing in the open Ministration, in the Congregation and assembly of the people, whereby to prove his Half Communion. Wherefore, there is no cause yet showed to the contrary, but M. Ivel may say now, as he truly before said in his Sermon, The whole Communion was used throughout the whole Catholic Church under Both Kinds, six hundred years after Christs Ascension, in all Congregations, and Churches without exception.

He hath had good conference with as many, as he thought meete, either within this Realme, or without. He hath seene, what so euer hath beene written by Coclaeus, Eckius, Pigghius, Hofmeister, Michael Vaehe, Hosius, Staphylus, and suche other of that sorte. He hath had fiue whole yeeres and more, to order, and digeste his Booke. It toucheth him very neere, that any man shoulde be so bolde to say, They haue defrauded the people of halfe the Sacrament, and yet can allege nothinge for it. He sheweth him selfe muche offended, and therefore spareth not his familiar termes, Heretiques, Schismatiques, Aduersaries of the Churche, Goddes Enemies, and suche like. Yet hauinge so muche learninge, so muche eloquence, so much conference, so muche studie, so muche leasure, beinge so affected, and so offended, yet hath he not hitherto brought one woorde, either of auncient Councel, or of olde Doctour, to prooue that thinge that is denied: that is, that the Sacramente vvas euer Ministred vnto the people in one Kinde, Openly in any Congregation, or in the open order and vsage of any Churche. Yet were there Churches then erected: yet were there Priestes and people then: yet was the holy Ministration then openly vsed in forme, and order: and learned men to recorde the same. Al this not withstandinge, M. Hardinge hath hitherto founde nothinge in the open Ministration, in the Congregation and assemblie of the people, whereby to prooue his Halfe Communion. Wherfore, there is no cause yet shewed to the contrary, but M. Iuel may say nowe, as he truly before saide in his Sermon, The vvhole Communion vvas vsed throughout the vvhole Catholique Churche vnder Bothe Kindes, sixe hundred yeeres after Christes Ascension, in al Congregations, and Churches vvithout exception.