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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 2 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 2 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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But Christ hath lea•te these matters to the discretion, and determination of the Church. By what record may that appear? M. Hardinges word is no Charter. Or if it be true, where did the Church ever so determine of it, within the compass of six hundred years? S. Augustine in this case is very reasonable:1 his words be these, Ubi authoritas deficit, ibi consuetudo Maiorum pro lege tenenda est, Where authoritie faileth, there the Custom of our Elders must hold for a Law. But having God's Word, and Christs Institution, we want no authority.
But Christe hathe lea•te these maters to the discretion, and determination of the Churche. By what recorde may that appeare? M. Hardinges woorde is no Charter. Or if it be true, where did the Churche euer so determine of it, within the compasse of sixe hundred yeeres? S. Augustine in this case is very reasonable:1 his woordes be these, Vbi authoritas deficit, ibi consuetudo Maiorum pro lege tenenda est, Where authoritie faileth, there the Custome of our Elders muste holde for a Lawe. But hauinge Goddes Woorde, and Christes Institution, we wante no authoritie.
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The authority of the Church is great: I grant: but the causes, that moved the Church of Rome to break Christs Institution, as the keeping of the Wine, Beards, and Palsies, and such like, are not great: Not withstanding M. Harding enlarge them much, and call them Important, and weighty causes. The two Councils of Basil and Constance, where this matter was first concluded, as they were at the least fourteen hundred years after Christ, and therefore not to be alleged in this case against may assertion, so the authority of them both •angeth yet in question.