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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 2 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 2 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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The B. of Salisbury.
The B. of Sarisburie.
Here M. Harding complaineth, we do him wrong, to allege this Canon against him: for that he believeth even as Gelasius did, that whole Christ is in each part of the Sacrament. It is very much to allege Gelasius faith without his words: or to found any new faith, as this is, without some kind of proof. This is M. Hardinges gross error, and not Gelasius, or any other of the Catholic Fathers faith. If the holy Fathers had so believed, they had words, and were able to utter it. If this had been the faith of the Catholic Church, it had not been kept so long in silence.
Here M. Hardinge complaineth, wée doo him wronge, to allege this Canon against him: for that he beléeueth euen as Gelasius did, that whole Christe is in eche parte of the Sacrament. It is very muche to allege Gelasius faithe without his woordes: or to founde any new faithe, as this is, without some kinde of proufe. This is M. Hardinges grosse errour, and not Gelasius, or any other of the Catholike Fathers faithe. If the holy Fathers had so beléeued, they had woordes, and were hable to vtter it. If this had beene the faithe of the Catholike Churche, it had not beene keapte so longe in silence.
As for Gelasius,1 his own words are sufficient to declare his faith. Thus he writeth against Nestorius, and Etyches: Sacramenta, quae sumimus, Corporis, & Sanguinis Christi, divinae res unt: propter quod & per eadem divinae efficimur consortes naturae. Et tamen esse non definit substantia vel natura Panis & Vini. The Sacraments of Christs Body and Blood that we receive, are a godly thing, and therefore by the same we are made partakers of the divine nature. yet there letteth not to be the substance or nature of Bread and Wine. This was Gelasius faith touching these portions of the Sacrament.