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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 3 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 3 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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The disorder of Prayer, that M. Harding hath here taken in hand to defend, is not only repugnant to the Scriptures of God, but also contrary to the sense of Nature. For if Birds, and Beasts could speak, as Democritus the Philosopher sometime thought, and as Lactantius a Christian writer seemeth partly to say, they do, yet being Birds, and Beasts, and void of reason,1 they would not speak, they know not what. Wherefore seeing this abuse appeareth contrary to God, and Nature, and now also is misliked and condemned by the common judgement of all People, therefore it behooveth M. Harding to leave his guesses, and soundly, and effectually to seek to prove it.
The disorder of Praier, that M. Harding hath here taken in hande to defende, is not onely repugnant to the Scriptures of God, but also contrary to the sense of Nature. For if Birdes, and Beastes coulde speake, as Democritus the Philosopher sometime thought, and as Lactantius a Christian writer séemeth partly to say, they doo, yet beinge Birdes, and Beastes, and voide of reason,1 they woulde not speake, they know not what. Wherefore séeinge this abuse appeareth contrary to God, and Nature, and now also is misseliked and condemned by the common iudgement of al People, therfore it behooueth M. Harding to leaue his gheasses, and soundely, and effectually to séeke to prooue it.
- 1Lactantius, Institution. li. 3. ca. 10.
Two special things he hath confessed in this treaty, which quite overthrow his whole purpose: The one is, That the Prayers in the Primitive Church were said in the common known tongue: The other is, That it were good even now, that the people understood ⟨p. 152⟩their own Prayers. This is the plain song, and may well stand for the ground: the rest is altogether discant, and vain voluntary, and the most part out of tune.