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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 3 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 3 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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Now that he further saith, The planters of the Faith in all these West Countries, made the Common Prayers every where in the Latin Tongue: besides that it is manifestly false, as, God willing, hereafter shall well appear, it hath not, no not so much as any likelihood, or show of trueth.
Nowe that he further saithe, The planters of the Faithe in al these Weaste Countries, made the Common Praiers euery where in the Latine Tongue: bisides that it is manifestly false, as, God willinge, hereafter shal wel appeare, it hath not, no not so muche as any likelihoode, or shewe of truethe.
For, Good Reader, consider this reason: The planters of the Faith came from Rome: Ergo, they kept every where the order of Rome. If this argument would hold, then would I likewise reason thus: The Church of Rome was first planted by them, that came from Graecia, or from Jerusalem: Ergo, Rome keepeth the order of Graecia, or of Jerusalem. But M. Harding presuming this of him self, without other proof, that the Churches of these Countries followed the order of the Church of Rome, concludeth further: Ergo, they had their Service in Latin, as had the Church of Rome. Every Child seeth that this is a Fallax, or a deceitful argument, called, A secundū quid ad simpliciter: He might as well have said thus, They followed the order of the Church of Rome: Ergo, they had their Exhortations, and Sermons in Latin: for so had the Church of Rome. 1But is M. Harding so unadvised, or so negligent in his matters, that he seethe not, how aptly his own argument reboundeth upon him self? Verily of this ground we may in good form, and truly reason thus: These Churches of the West followed the order of the Church of Rome (This he him self hath taken as an undoubted trueth) But the Church of Rome had the Service in the natural known tongue (which thing he him self also granteth) Ergo, These Churches of the West, had the Service in the natural known tongue. This argument is sound, and perfect, and without Fallax.
For, Good Reader, consider this reason: The planters of the Faithe came from Rome: Ergo, they keapte euery where the order of Rome. If this argument woulde holde, then woulde I likewise reason thus: The Churche of Rome was firste planted by them, that came from Graecia, or from Hierusalem: Ergo, Rome keepeth the order of Graecia, or of Hierusalem. But M. Hardinge presuminge this of him selfe, without other proufe, that the Churches of these Countries followed the order of the Churche of Rome, concludeth further: Ergo, they had their Seruice in Latine, as had the Church of Rome. Euery Childe séeth that this is a Fallax, or a deceitful argument, called, A secundū quid ad simpliciter: He might as wel haue saide thus, They folowed the order of the Churche of Rome: Ergo, they had their Exhortations, and Sermons in Latine: for so had the Churche of Rome.