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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 3 › M. Harding. The .14. Division.Article 3 › M. Hardinge. The .14. Diuision.
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M. Harding. The .14. Division.
M. Hardinge. The .14. Diuision.
The commandment of Justinian the Emperor, which M. Ivel allegeth, that Bishops, and ⟨p. 171⟩Priests should celebrate the holy Oblation,1 or Sacrifice, which we call the Mass, not closely, but with utterance, and sound of voice, that they might be heard of the people: maketh nothing for the Service to be had in the English tongue, in the Church of England, or in any other Vulgar tongue, in the Church of any other Nation: but requireth only of the Bishops, and Priests, open pronouncing,2 Vocal, not Mental: speaking, not whispering with the breathe only, in the celebration of the holy Sacrifice, and other Service. Wherein he agreeth with S. Augustine, who in his Book De Magistro, saith, that when we pra•e, there is no need of speaking, onlesse perhaps we do as Priests do▪ who when they Pray (in Public assembly) use speaking for cause of Signifying their mind, that is, to show, that they Pray, not to the intent God, but men may hear, and with a certain consent through putting in mind (by sound of voice) may be lifted up unto God. This much S. Augustine there. And this is the right meaning of that Constitution. 763 And thus he ordained for the Greek Church only, and thereto only it is to be referred, for that some thought the Sacrifice should be celebrated rather with silence, 774 after the manner of the Church of Rome, specially at the Consecration. And as that Constitution pertained to the Greeks, and not to the Latins, so was it not found in the Latin Books, until regorius Haloander of Germany, of late years Translated the place. And where M. Ivel allegeth this commandment of Justinian, against the having of the Service in a learned tongue, unknown to the common people: it is to be noted, how he demeaneth him self not uprightly, but so as every man may thereby know a Scholar of Luther, Calvin, and Peter Martyr For where as by the allegation of that ordinance, he might seem to bring somewhat, that maketh for the Blessed Sacrifice of the Church commonly named the Mass, he dissembleth the word of the Sacrifice, which Justinian putteth expressly, [Greek or Hebrew], Id est, divinam oblationem, The Divine, or holy Oblation, and termeth it otherwise in his replies, by the name of Common Prayers: