A04474:1232
A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 3 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 3 › The B. of Sarisburie.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
The B. of Salisbury.
The B. of Sarisburie.
Arnobius, S. Augustine, and Epiphanius say, there be threescore and twelve sundry Languages in the world: Cicero saith, they be infinite. Here must I note by the way, that Ciceroes words well alleged, do utterly confound M. Hardinges Doctrine of hearing that thing, that the hearers understand not, in such sort, as he maintaineth the hearing of Mass.1 For thus he saith, In his linguis, quas non intelligimus, quae sunt innumerabiles, surdi profectò sumus. In those tongues, that we understand not, which be innumerable, certainly we be deaf. By which words, M. Harding might perceive, that the simple people hearing him at his Mass, is stark deaf, and heareth nothing. Yet, saith M. Harding, is not M. Ivel able to show, that ever the Public Service was in any other tongue then in Greek, or Latin. And thus being required by me, to show any one example, that the people had their Common Service in a strange tongue: and as it appeareth, not able to show any, he altereth cunningly the whole case, and willeth me to show. Which thing notwithstanding I might justly refuse to do, by the order of any Schools, yet am I well content to yield to his request, both for the goodness, and pregnancy of the cause, and also specially, good Christian Reader, for the better contentation of thy mind: not doubting, but of thee self, thou wilt be able to find some distrust, and want in M. Hardinges side: who notwithstanding so many words, and so great vaunts, yet is able to show nothing.
Arnobius, S. Augustine, and Epiphanius saye, there be thréescore and twelue sundrie Languages in the worlde: Cicero saith, they be infinite. Here must I note by the way, that Ciceroes woordes wel alleged, doo vtterly confounde M. Hardinges Doctrine of hearing that thinge, that the hearers vnderstande not, in suche sorte, as he mainteineth the hearinge of Masse.1 For thus he saithe, In his linguis, quas non intelligimus, quae sunt innumerabiles, surdi profectò sumus. In those tongues, that wee vnderstande not, which be innumerable, certainely wee be deafe. By which woordes, M. Hardinge might perceiue, that the simple people hearing him at his Masse, is starke deafe, and heareth nothinge. Yet, saithe M. Hardinge, is not M. Iuel hable to shew, that euer the Publique Seruice was in any other tongue then in Greeke, or Latin. And thus beinge required by mée, to shew any one example, that the people had their Common Seruice in a strange tongue: and as it appeareth, not hable to shew any, he altereth cunningly the whole case, and willeth mée to shew. Which thinge notwithstandinge I might iustely refuse to doo, by the order of any Schooles, yet am I wel contente to yéelde to his request, bothe for the goodnesse, and pregnancie of the cause, and also specially, good Christian Reader, for the better contentation of thy minde: not doubtinge, but of thée selfe, thou wilte be hable to finde some distrust, and wante in M. Hardinges side: who notwithstandinge so many woordes, and so greate vauntes, yet is hable to shew nothinge.