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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 3 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 3 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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The B. of Salisbury.
The B. of Sarisburie.
Here was a short victory. Peter, and Paul could never so easily conquer Kingdoms. But this matter stood not so much in winning the unfaithful, as in killing the Godly. After that was once done, straight ways Augustine had the conquest, and was out of hand made Archbishop, and wrote to Rome both thereof, and also for resolution of certain questions, meet, as he saith, for that rude people of England:1 As, whether a woman might be Baptized, while she were great with Child, or after her delivery: and how long after she should forbear the Church: with certain other secrete questions touching both man, and wife, so Childish, and so rude, that a man may well doubt, whether Augustine were ruder, or the people. Among other things, he demanded Counsel touching the Mass, for that in diverse Countries he had seen divers orders of Masses: and yet, good Reader, of them all he had seen no Private Mass. For the Mass in Rome at that time, was a Communion, as I have already showed, and as it appeareth by these words, which the Deacon pronounced at every Mass aloud unto the people: He that receiveth not the Communion, let him give place. The difference stood in addition of certain Ceremonies. For the Countries abroad, as we may judge, kept still that simple order, that they had first received: But the Church of Rome was ever altering. For Gregory him self, unto whom this Augustine writeth,2 added the Introit, and the Anthems, and Alleluia, and willed the Introit to be doubled twice, and the Kyrie eleeson nine times, and added also a certain portion to the Canon.3 Of these and other like differences Augustine demandeth: and of the same, Gregory maketh answer. Hereof M. Harding guesseth thus: It appeareth not by Bede, The Service was in English. Ergo, the Service was in Latin. What kind of Logic have we here? Or how may this reason hold? It concludeth ab authoritate negativè. I believe M. Harding him self will not allow it. By the like form of reasoning a man might as well say: It appeareth not by Bede, that the preachers instructed or exhorted the English people in English: Ergo, they instructed, and exhorted the English people in Latin. Yet again he guesseth further: There is no Book to be found of the English Service in that time: Ergo, the Service was in Latin. O what folly is this?