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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 3 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 3 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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But Bede himself is best able to expound his own meaning. Having occasion to entreat of Adrianus, & Theodorus, that came into England the year of our Lord .668. he writeth thus: Sonos cantandi in Ecclesia, quos eatenus in Cantio •antùm noverant, ab hoc tempore per omnes Anglorum Ecclesias discere coeperunt. From that time, they began to learn throughout all the Churches of England, the sounds of singing, or the notes of Music, which before that time were known only in Kent. Bede saith, they learned the Sounds, or Notes, or Harmony, and maketh no mention of the Tongue, or Ditty. But let M. Hardinges Conclusions stand for good. These Musicians taught the Clerks of England to singe after the Romaine manner, Ergo, they had the Latin Service.
But Beda himselfe is beste able to expounde his owne meaninge. Hauinge occasion to intreate of Adrianus, & Theodorus, that came into Englande the yeere of our Lorde .668. he writeth thus: Sonos cantandi in Ecclesia, quos eatenus in Cantio •antùm nouerant, ab hoc tempore per omnes Anglorum Ecclesias discere coeperunt. From that time, they began to learne throughout al the Churches of Englande, the soundes of singinge, or the notes of Musique, whiche before that time were knowen onely in Kente. Beda saithe, they learned the Soundes, or Notes, or Harmonie, and maketh no mention of the Tongue, or Dittie. But let M. Hardinges Conclusions stande for good. These Musicians taught the Clerkes of Englande to singe after the Romaine manner, Ergo, they had the Latine Seruice.
And doth he not see, that he concludeth fully with me, and directly against him self? Certainly if the Romaine Music import the Latin Service, then may I well reason thus:1 The Churches of England had not the Romaine Music, before James the Deacon of York, which lived in the year of our Lord .640. Ergo, before that time, the Churches of England had not the Latin Service: Which thing overthroweth all that M. Harding hath hitherto spoken, & standeth very well with my assertion.