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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 3 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 3 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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But the Latin tongue (saith M. Harding) as it is now commonly used in the Romaine Service, is not given by any such prompting of the Holy Ghost, nor is now any Miracle at all. Therefore the place of S. Paul cannot be applied unto it. We grant well, it is no miracle, as it is now used, nor any way savoureth of the Spirit of God. But this is a great miracle, to see either any man so wicked, that so will use it: or so impudent, that so will defend it: or so patient, that so will suffer it. This verily is a marvellous miracle.
But the Latine tongue (saith M. Hardinge) as it is nowe commonly vsed in the Romaine Seruice, is not geuen by any suche promptinge of the Holie Ghoste, nor is nowe any Miracle at al. Therfore the place of S. Paule cannot be applied vnto it. We graunte wel, it is no miracle, as it is now vsed, nor any way sauoureth of the Spirite of God. But this is a great miracle, to sée either any man so wicked, that so wil vse it: or so impudent, that so wil defende it: or so patient, that so wil suffer it. This verily is a merueilous miracle.
M. Harding seemeth hereof to reason of this sort. S. Paul forbade the Corinthians to use the special miracle, and gift of God without profiting the Congregation. Ergo, Now having the Latin tongue without miracle, we may minister the ••ruice therein, although the Congregation have no Profit by it. This reason is strange, and holdeth as simply as the rest. Yet hath he given special advertisement in the Margin, that this place of S. Paul, serveth nothing to our purpose. If this note be so certain, and so authentical, as he would seem to make it, then were the Doctors both new and old, that took it otherwise, not well advised. For Lyra writing upon the same, saith thus:1 Si populus intelligat orationem Sacerdotis, meliùs reducitur in Deum, & devotiùs respondet, Amen. Ideò dicit Paulus, Situ Sacerdos benedixeris Spiritu, & populus non intelligat, quid proficit populus simplex, & non intelligens? Quapropter in Primitiva Ecclesia benedictiones, & coetera omnia fiebant in vulgari. If the people understand the prayer of the Priest, they are the better brought unto God, and with greater devotion they answer, Amen. Therefore S. Paul saith, If thou being a Priest Bliss with thy Spirit, and the people understand thee not, what profit then hath the people being simple, and not understanding thee? Therefore in the Primitive Church, both the Blessings, and all other things