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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 3 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 3 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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But (he saith) the place of S. Paul is doubtful: S. Ambrose, S. Augustine, S. Chrysostom, Isidorus, Erasmus, and Thomas of Aquine understood it diversely. And will he thereof conclude thus, These Fathers mistook S. Pauls sense: Ergo, S. Paul had no sense? Or, divers Doctors touching this place had divers judgements: Ergo, We must have no judgement? Or must we follow none of them, because some were deceived? Or must we follow them all together, because they were Doctors? In deed they dissented somewhat in the taking of this word, Spirit, as it is evident: but whether it were the holy Ghost, that S. Paul meant thereby, or Imagination, or Reason, or the Gift of tongues, or the Sound of the mouth, or the power of Utterance, or the Voice it self, it is certain, and confessed by these, and all other Doctors, and Fathers, that S. Paul spake of an unknown tongue, and as S. Gregorie saith,1 De strepitu oris, of the babbling of the mouth: and so consequently of a noise of strange words, wherewith M. Hardinges tender ears are so much offended.
But (he saith) the place of S. Paule is doubteful: S. Ambrose, S. Augustine, S. Chrysostome, Isidorus, Erasmus, and Thomas of Aquine vnderstoode it diuersely. And wil he thereof conclude thus, These Fathers mistooke S. Paules sense: Ergo, S. Paule had no sense? Or, diuers Doctours touching this place had diuers iudgementes: Ergo, Wee must haue no iudgement? Or must wée folow none of them, bicause some were deceiued? Or must wée folowe them al togeather, bicause they were Doctours? In déede they dissented somwhat in the takinge of this woorde, Spirite, as it is euident: but whether it were the holy Ghoste, that S. Paule meante thereby, or Imagination, or Reason, or the Gyfte of tongues, or the Sounde of the mouthe, or the power of Utterance, or the Uoice it selfe, it is certaine, and confessed by these, and al other Doctours, and Fathers, that S. Paule spake of an vnknowen tongue, and as S. Gregorie saith,1 De strepitu oris, of the bablinge of the mouthe: and so consequently of a noise of strange woordes, wherewith M. Hardinges tender eares are so muche offended.
- 1Hugo Cardin. citat Gregoriū.Hugo Cardin. citat Gregoriū.