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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 3 › M. Harding. The .34. Division.Article 3 › M. Hardinge. The .34. Diuision.
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M. Harding. The .34. Division.
M. Hardinge. The .34. Diuision.
I trust wise, godly, and steadfast men, who be not carried about with every wind of Doctrine, will be moved more with the authority of Origen, a man always in the judgement of all the Christen world accounted most excellently learned, then with the scorning of Calvin, who speaking of the ancient Latin Service used in England, and Fraunce saithe,1 Ad Ecclesiam ex sono non intellecto nullus penitus fructus redit: that of the sound not understanded, no fruit at all returneth to the Church: using that word of despite, that might better be spoken by a Minstrel, of his Pipe and Tabret, then by a Preacher, of the Divine Service. Neither hereof with any milder Spirit speaketh his Disciple and Subminister Theodore Beza, the hot Minister of the deformed Churches of France.2 Quaecunque preces ab aliquo concipiuntur eo idiomate, quod ipse nō intelligat, pro Dei ludibrio sunt habendae. What prayers so ever be made (saith he) of any man in a tongue that he understandeth not, they be to be taken for a mockery of God. Who so ever here alloweth Calvin, and Beza, condemned of the Church, must condemn Origen, for this point never reproved or touched of any, that have not spared him where so ever they could charge him with any error. If all prayers made in an unknown tongue be a mocking of God, as Beza saith: then were the prayers uttered by miracle in the Primitive Church with tongues (which the utterers them selves understood not after the mind of Chrysostom) a mocking of God: For I see nothing, whereby they are excluded from his 873 general saying, and universal proposition. Verily, this teaching of Beza is not sound. I ween, if he were out of the protection of his deformed Churches, and convented before a Catholic Bishop, to give an account of this doctrine, he would steppe back, and revoke that rash saying again. For else he should seem to grant, that God gave at the beginning of the Church, the gift of tongues to be mocked withal: which were very absurd, and blasphemous. S. Paul wisheth that all the Corinthians spake with tongues, but rather that they Prophesied.