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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 1 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 1 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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But what if neither Clement the Apostles fellow, nor Obadiah, nor S. James, nor Basil, nor Chrysostom, nor any other of all these here alleged, speak one word of Private Mass? What if they have not so much as the name of Mass? What if they testify plainly against M. Hardinges Mass?1 What if they testify fully and roundly with the holy Communion? It were great shame for M. Harding to fly from his own witnesses: and very much for me to stand to be tried by them, that are brought in such a throng to depose against me.
But what if neither Clement the Apostles fellow, nor Abdias, nor S. Iames, nor Basile, nor Chrysostome, nor any other of al these here alleged, speake one woorde of Priuate Masse? What if they haue not so muche as the name of Masse? What if they testifie plainely against M. Hardinges Masse?1 What if they testifie fully and roundely with the holy Communion? It were great shame for M. Hardinge to flie from his owne witnesses: and very muche for me to stande to be tried by them, that are brought in suche a thronge to depose against me.
- 1M. Harding allegeth witnesses against him self.M. Hardinge allegeth witnesses againste him selfe.
And to begin first with S. James, the order of his Liturgy, which Master Harding calleth Mass, standeth thus:1 Sacerdos ait: Nullus eorum, qui orare non possunt, nobiscum i•grediatur. Diaconus ait, Cum timore, & fide, & dilectione accedite: Populus responde•, Benedictus, qui venit in nomine Domini. Deinde impertit Clero: Cum autem attollunt Diaconi discos, & calices, ad impertiendum populo, Diaconus ait, Domine benedic. Which words may be turned thus: The Priest saith: Let not one of them, that may not pray, enter in with us. The Deacon saith, With reverence, and faith, and love approach ye near. The people