A04474:1788
A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 4 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 4 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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But it is most certain, and out of all question, that Chrysostom Appealed unto Innocentius: for M. Harding hath here alleged his own words. I grant, M. Harding hath here alleged Chrysostom: but in such faithful, and trusty sort, as Pope Zosimus sometimes alleged the Council of Nice. Good Christian Reader, if thou have Chrysostom, peruse this place, and weigh well his words: if thou have him not, yet be not overhasty of belief. M. Hardinges dealing with thee herein is not plain. The very words of Chrysostom in Latin stand thus: Ne confusio haec omnem, quae sub Coelo est, 1nationem inuadat, obsecro, ut scribas, quod haec tam inique facta, & absentibus nobis, & non declinantibus judicium, non habeant robur: Sicut neque natura sua habent. Illi autem, qui iniquè egerunt, poenae Ecclesiasticarum Legū subiaceant. Nobis verò, qui nec conuicti, nec redarguti, nec habiti ut rei sumus, literis vestris, & charitate vestra, aliorumque omnium, quorum an•èsocietate fruebamur, frui concedite. Which words into English may truly be translated thus. Lest this confusion overrun all nations under heaven, I pray thee write, (or signify) unto them, that these things so unjustly done, I being absent, and yet not fleeing judgement, be of no force, as in deed of their own nature they be of none: and (write) that they, that have done these things so wrongfully, be punished by the Laws of the Church: and grant you, that we, that are neither convicted, nor reproved, nor found guilty, may enjoy your letters, and your love, and likewise the letters, and love of all others, whose fellowship we enjoyed before. In these few words M. Harding hath notably falsified three places, quite altering the words that he found, & shuffling in, and interlacing other words of his own. For these words in M. Hardinges translation, that seem to signify authority in the Bishop of Rome, and to import the Appeal, Write, and determine by your authority:2 Put you them under the Censure of the Church: Give commandment, that we be restored to our Churches: These word, I say, are not to be found in Chrysostom, neither in the Greek, nor in the Latin: but only are prettily conveyed in by M. Harding, the better to furnish, and fashion up his Appeal.
But it is moste certaine, and out of al question, that Chrysostome Appealed vnto Innocentius: for M. Hardinge hath here alleged his owne woordes. I graunte, M. Hardinge hath here alleged Chrysostome: but in suche faithful, and trustie sorte, as Pope Zosimus sometimes alleged the Councel of Nice. Good Christian Reader, if thou haue Chrysostome, peruse this place, and weigh wel his woordes: if thou haue him not, yet be not ouerhastie of beliefe. M. Hardinges dealinge with thée herein is not plaine. The very woordes of Chrysostome in Latine stande thus: Ne confusio haec omnem, quae sub Coelo est,