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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 4 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 4 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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Al this notwithstanding, by M. Hardinges resolution, the See of Rome never failed from the Faith, nor never can fail. The Valentinian Heretics, as Irenaeus reporteth, were wont to say of them selves, that they were naturally made of a Heavenly substance, and therefore needed not to slay from sin, as as others needed. For lived they never so wickedly, yet said they,1 We are spiritual still: no sin can hurt us. For we are as pure tried Gold, which not withstanding it be laid in a heap of dung, yet keepeth it still the brightness, and nature of Gold, and receiveth no com•ption of the dung. Even so these men seem to say, that whatsoever the Pope either believe, or speak, or do, his Faith still remaineth sound, and can never fail, because he sitteth in Peters Chair: as if he had a lease of the Church of God, without any manner Impeachment of Waste. And therefore they saie, Quod si totus mundus sententiet in aliquo aduersus Papam, 2tamen videtur, quòd magis standū est sententiae Papae, If all the world give sentence in any thing contrary to the Pope, it seemeth, we ought rather to stand to the Popes judgement, then to the judgement of all the world. Again they say, In Papa si desint bona acquisita per meritum, sufficiunt ea quae a loci praedecessore praestantur. If there want in the Pope good things gotten by merit, yet the things that he hath of (Peter) his predecessor in that place, are sufficient.
Al this notwithstandinge, by M. Hardinges resolution, the See of Rome neuer failed from the Faith, nor neuer can faile. The Ualentinian Heretiques, as Irenaeus reporteth, were wonte to say of them selues, that they were naturally made of a Heauenly substance, and therefore néeded not to slee from sinne, as as others néeded. For liued they neuer so wickedly, yet saide they,1 We are spiritual stil: no sinne canne hurte vs. For we are as pure tried Golde, whiche not withstandinge it be laide in a heape of donge, yet keepeth it stil the brightnes, and nature of Golde, and receiueth no com•ption of the donge. Euen so these men séeme to saie, that whatsoeuer the Pope either beléeue, or speake, or doo, his Faithe stil remaineth sounde, and canne neuer faile, bicause he sitteth in Peters Chaire: as if he had a lease of the Churche of God, without any manner Empeachement of Waste. And therefore they saie, Quod si totus mundus sententiet in aliquo aduersus Papam,