A04474:1927
A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 4 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 4 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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Now for a brief answer, M. Harding hath found six hundred and thirty Bishops, that gave this title to Leo Bishop of Rome, in the Council of Chalcedon, and called him the Universal Bishop: which thing (as he saith) is recorded by S. Gregory in three sundry places. Here, good Christian Reader, by the way, this one thing (I trust) thou wilt consider of thee self. If the name of Universal Bishop were given to the Bishop of Rome in the Council of Chalcedon, which was holden in the year of our Lord. 488. then by M. Hardinges own grant, & by the witness of this Council, the Bishop of Rome before that time had not the name of Universal Bishop. Otherwise, how could either they give, that they had not to bestow: or he receive, that he had already? In deed such bestowing of gifts had been very childish. Thus of the whole number of six hundred years, M. Harding freely, even at the sight, hath yielded us back four hundred, four score, and eight years towards the reckoning. Before we pass further, let us […], what credit the Pope him self giveth to this Council of. 630.1 Fathers, holden at Chalcedon. Pope Gelasius saith, The Apostolic •ee of Rome in part allowed it not: for that, things were there borne out by inordinate presumption. Pope Leo accuseth the whole Council of Ambition, and wilful Rashness. And S. Hierome in the case of Matrimony Inter Raptorē, & Raptam, is received against all those .630. Bishops, & against the Determination of the whole Council. In such regard they have the Coū cels when they list. But y• law saith, Absurdū videtur, licere eidem partim comprobare judiciū defuncti, partim evener.2 It is against reason, that one man should in part allow the will of the dead (so far forth, as it maketh for him) and in part overthrow it (where it seemeth to make against him.)
Now for a briefe answeare, M. Hardinge hath founde sixe hundred and thirtie Bishops, that gaue this title to Leo Bishop of Rome, in the Councel of Chalcedon, and called him the Uniuersal Bishop: whiche thinge (as he saith) is recorded by S. Gregorie in thrée sundrie places. Here, good Christian Reader, by the way, this one thinge (I trust) thou wilt consider of thée selfe. If the name of Uniuersal Bishop were geuen to the Bishop of Rome in ye Councel of Chalcedon, which was holden in the yéere of our Lorde. 488. then by M. Hardinges owne graunte, & by the witnesse of this Councel, the Bishop of Rome before that time had not the name of Uniuersal Bishop. Otherwise, how coulde either they geue, that they had not to bestowe: or he receiue, that he had already? In déede suche bestowinge of giftes had béene very childishe. Thus of the whole number of sixe hundred yéeres, M. Hardinge fréely, euen at the sight, hath yelded vs backe foure hundred, foure score, and eight yeeres towardes the reckening. Before wee passe further, let vs , what credit the Pope him selfe geueth to this Councel of. 630.