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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 4 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 4 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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Yet (saith M. Harding) the Bishops of Rome▪ that were godly Fathers and holy […] used this name, as it appeareth by their Epistles. And here are brought in the titles of letters under the names of Sixtus, Pontianus, and certain others, written, as it is before declared, a long time after the writers were dead. Such ruinous foundations M. Harding hath chosen to build upon.
Yet (saithe M. Hardinge) the Bishops of Rome▪ that were godly Fathers and holy 〈…〉 vsed this name, as it appeareth by their Epistles. And here are brought in the titles of letters vnder the names of Sixtus, Pontianus, and certaine others, written, as it is before declared, a longe time after the writers were deade. Suche ruinous fundations M. Hardinge hath chosen to builde vpon.
But what are these Old Fathers taught to say? Or how is M. Harding relieved by their words? In the Salutation before their letters they write thus, Sixtus, Pontianus, Victor, Bishop of the Universal Church. This (saith M. Harding) is even alone thing with, Universalis Episcopus▪ there is no manner difference. O what ranging, and hunting here is, to beat up that thing, that will not be found. M. Harding, because he can not find the Universal Bishop, that he sought for, therefore he hath sought out the next of kin, that is, The Bishop of the Universal Church: and these two, he saith, be both one. Howbeit, this matter neede• no great seeking: every Child might soon have found it. But if an Universal Bishop, and a Bishop of the Universal Church, be all one thing, how then is it true,1 that S. Gregory saith, Nemo decessorum &c. None of my Predecessors would ever consent to this name? Or how can he find such fault with the name of Universal Bishop, and bear so easily with the name of Bishop of the Universal Church, which, he knew, his Predecessors had used, if he took them both for one thing, without difference? To be short, if these names, as M. Harding assureth him self, be both one, how is the one Godly, the other Ungodly: the one Arrogant, the other not Arrogant: the one blasphemous, the other not blasphemous?