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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 5 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 5 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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Again, S. Hieromes meaning is, that the same Flesh of Christ, being thus Divine, and Spiritual, must also Spiritually be received, and not in any such Carnal, or Fleshly wise, as is here imagined by M. Harding. For notwithstanding Christs Body be Spiritual, yet is that no sufficient warrant, to prove, that therefore M. Hardinges opinion is not, as he saith, over Gross, and Carnal. For the Manichees, and the Messalian Heretics had Gross, and Carnal imaginations of God him self, notwithstanding God be only Sprite, and most Spiritual. And therefore S. Augustine saith of them, Ecce ego derideo Carnales homines,1 qui nondum possunt Spiritualia cogitare: Behold, I laugh to scorn these Carnal, and Fleshly men, that are not yet able to conceive things Spiritual.
Againe, S. Hieromes meaninge is, that the same Fleashe of Christe, beinge thus Diuine, and Spiritual, muste also Spiritually be receiued, and not in any suche Carnal, or Fleashly wise, as is here imagined by M. Hardinge. For notwithstandinge Christes Bodie be Spiritual, yet is that no sufficient warrant, to prooue, that therefore M. Hardinges opinion is not, as he saithe, ouer Grosse, and Carnal. For the Manichées, and the Messalian Heretiques had Grosse, and Carnal imaginations of God him selfe, notwithstandinge God be onely Sprite, and moste Spiritual. And therefore S. Augustine saith of them, Ecce ego derideo Carnales homines,1 qui nondum possunt Spiritualia cogitare: Beholde, I laughe to scorne these Carnal, and Fleashly men, that are not yet hable to conceiue thinges Spiritual.
- 1Augusti. contrae Epistolam Fundamenti. cap. 23.
For proof hereof S. Hierome him selfe saithe,1 De hac quidem Hoftia, quae in Christi Commemoratione mirabiliter fit, edere licet: De illa verò, quam Christus in Ara Crucis obtulit, secundum se nulli edere licet: Of this Oblation, which is marvellously made in the remembrance of Christ, it is lawful to eat: But of that Oblation, which Christ offered upon the Altar of the Cross, according to it self (that is to say, in Gross, & Fleshly manner) it is lawful for no man to eat. By these words S. Hierome also showeth a great difference between the Sacrifice, that is made in the Remembrance of Christ, and the very Sacrifice in deed, that Christ made upon the Cross. So S. Chrysostom saith,