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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 5 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 5 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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The B. of Salisbury.
The B. of Sarisburie.
Here M. Harding once again, as before, will teach us, what the old Fathers meant by those words, that they never uttered. I trow, he hath some privy Divination, that thus taketh upon him, to know what men mean, before they speak. Cicero1 saith, Peritum esse necesse est eum, qui Silentium quid sit, intelligat: It must needs be some conning fellow, that understandeth, what Silence meaneth, and knoweth what they speak, that speak nothing. He saith, The Fathers thought good, to use the aforesaid terms, to put away all doubt of the being of Christs very Body in these holy Mysteries. Verily, this is a marvellous boldness, so often, and with such confidence, and countenance to say, The Old Fathers used these terms, and yet not once to show any one of them all, that ever used them. It may be thought, that he hath, either to great affiance in him self, or to little regard unto his Reader. As for this vain muster of the names of Chrysostom, Hilary, Gregory Nyssene, and Cyril, as it shall appear by the view, it helpeth him nothing.
Here M. Harding once againe, as before, wil teache vs, what the olde Fathers meante by those woordes, that they neuer vttred. I trowe, he hath some priuie Diuination, that thus taketh vpon him, to know what men meane, before they speake. Cicero1 saith, Peritum esse necesse est eum, qui Silentium quid sit, intelligat: It must needes be some conning felow, that vnderstandeth, what Silence meaneth, and knoweth what they speake, that speake nothinge. He saith, The Fathers thought good, to vse the aforesaide termes, to put away al doubte of the beinge of Christes very Bodie in these holy Mysteries. Uerily, this is a merueilous boldenesse, so often, and with suche confidence, and countenance to say, The Olde Fathers vsed these termes, and yet not once to shew any one of them al, that euer vsed them. It may be thought, that he hath, either to greate affiance in him selfe, or to litle regarde vnto his Reader. As for this vaine muster of the names of Chrysostome, Hilarie, Gregorie Nyssene, and Cyril, as it shal appeare by the viewe, it healpeth him nothinge.