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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 6 › M. Harding. The .II. Division.Article 6 › M. Hardinge. The .II. Diuision.
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M. Harding. The .II. Division.
M. Hardinge. The .II. Diuision.
But because M. Ivel, and they of that sect, seem to set little by these Fathers, though very Ancient, S. Bernard excepted, and of the Church holden for Saints, I will bring forth the Authority of Martin Bucer, a late Doctor of their side, though not Canonizate for a Saint as yet▪ for that I know. This new Father, whom they esteem so much, and was the Reader of Divinity in Cambridge in king Edwards time, very vehemently, and for so much truly, affirmeth the true Real presence of Christs Body in the Sacrament. For he saith, Christ said not, This is my spirit, This is my Virtue: But this is my Body. Wherefore we must believe (saith he) Christs Body to be there, even the same that did hang upon the Cross, our Lord himself. Which in some part to declare,1 he useth the similitude of the sun for his purpose, contrary to M. Ivelles Negative, to prove Christs Body present, and that Really, and Substantially, in what places so ever the Sacrament is rightly Ministered.2 His words be these. Ut sol verè uno in loco Coeli visibilis circumscriptus est, radijs tamen suis praesens Verè & Substantialiter exhibetur ubilibet Orbis: Ita Dominus, etiam si circumscribatur uno loco Coeli arcani, & Divini, id est, Gloriae Patris, Verbo tamen suo, & Sacris Symbolis, verè, & totus ipse Deus, & homo praesens exhibetur in Sacra Coena, eóque substantialiter, quam praesentiam non minus certò agnoscit mens credens Verbis his Domini, & Symbolis, quàm oculi vident, & habent Solem praesentem demonstratum, & exhibitum sua corporally luce. Res ista arcana est, & Novi Testamenti, res Fidei: non sunt igitur huc admittendae cogitationes de praesentatione Corporis, quae constat ratione huius vitae▪ etiam pa•ibilis, & fluxae. Verbo Domini simpliciter inhaerendum est, & debet Fides sensuum defectui praebere supplementum. Which may thus be Englished. As the Sun is truly placed determinately in one place of the visible heaven, and yet is exhibited truly, and substantially by his beams everywhere abroad in the world: So our Lord, although he be contained in one place of the Secrete and Divine Heaven, that is to wit, the Glory of his Father, yet for all that, by his Word, and holy Tokens, he is exhibited present in his holy Supper truly, and him self whole, God, and Man, and therefore Substantially, or in Substance.