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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 6 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 6 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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True it is, That the Faith of our Religion cannot be proved by discourse of Reason.1 But every fantasy may not go for Christian Faith. S. Paule saith, Fides ex auditu: Audi•us ex Verbo Dei. Faithe cometh by hearing: Hearing cometh by the Word of God. Certainly, M. Hardinges New Faith, or Fantasy, in the time of the Old Catholic Fathers, was neither Christened, nor known in the world: as may appear by their own witness of good Record. For besides others, whom in this treatise I have touched upon occasion by the way, S. Augustine writeth purposely hereof unto Dardanus in this wise. Noli dubitare, ibi nunc esse Hominem Christum Jesum,2 unde venturus est &c. Doubte thou not, but Christ Jesus, as Man, is there, from whence he shall come: and have thou in Remembrance, and Faithfully hold the Christian Confession, That he is Risen from the Dead: that he is Ascended into Heaven: that he sitteth at the Right hand of his Father: and that from thence, and from no where else, he shall come, to Judge the quick, and the Dead, even as he was seen going into Heaven: that is,3 in the same Form, and Substance of his Body: To which Body undoubtedly he hath given Immortality: but hath not taken from the same the Nature of a Body. According to this form (of Man) we may not think, that Christ is poured abroad into all places. For we must beware, We do not so defend the Godhead of the Man, that we destroy the Trueth of his Body. Againe, Unus Christus Jesus: ubique per id, quod Deus est: in Coelo autem per id, quod Homo. Christe Jesus is one Person, and the same everywhere in that he is God: but he is in Heaven, in that he is Man. Again he saith, Semper quidem Divinitate nobiscum est: Sed, nisi Corporaliter abiret à nobis, semper eius Corpus Carnaliter videremus. Christ by his Godhead is ever with us: but onlesse he had departed away Bodily from us, we should evermore Carnally see his Body. These words are specially to be noted. If Christ were Bodily here, he should Carnally be seen: Therefore, by S. Augustine's judgement, if Christ were Bodily present in the Sacrament, we should see him Carnally in the Sacramente. Againe, Et abijt, & h•c est: & redijt, & nos non deseruit. Corpus enim suum intulit Coelo: Maiestatem autem non abstulit mundo. He is gone, and yet is here. He is returned to his Father, and yet hath not forsaken us.