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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 8 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 8 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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And, that this was Chrysostoms meaning, it appeareth by the very form, and order of his words. For he saith, Thou Seest the holy Ghost: thou Seest, & Touchest that princely Body. Thus he speaketh of a Spiritual seeing, and touching, wherewith we see, and touch things, be they never so far absent from us. For otherwise, touching bodily sight, M. Harding knoweth, the Holy Ghost cannot be seen: and by his own Doctrine, the Body of Christ is there Invisible.
And, that this was Chrysostomes meaninge, it appeareth by the very forme, and order of his woordes. For he saith, Thou Seest the holy Ghost: thou Seest, & Touchest that princely Bodie. Thus he speaketh of a Spiritual seeinge, and touchinge, wherewith we see, and touche thinges, be they neuer so farre absent from vs. For otherwise, touchinge bodily sight, M. Hardinge knoweth, the Holy Ghost cannot be seene: and by his owne Doctrine, the Bodie of Christe is there Inuisible.
But least M. Harding take occasion hereof, to say, This is a Fantastical, and a Vain kind of seeing, Let him remember the words that S. Hierome writeth to Paula, and Eustochium, touching their abode at Bethlehem.1 Magos tria deferentes munera in vision beatis oculis vidisti. Ipsa eadem munera Fide Deo obtulisti: Cum i•sdem Magis Deum Puerum in Presepio adorasti. Thou sawest with thine happy eyes the Wise men carrying their three sorts of presents: Thou tookest the same presents, and offeredst them unto God by Faith: with the same Wise men thou Adoredst God being a Child in the Manger. She saw the Wise men, and yet saw them not: She received their Presents, and yet received them not: She Adored the Child in the Manger, and yet the Child was not there. Thus she did, not verily, or in deed: and yet not vainly, nor by way of Fantasy notwithstanding: but truly, and effectually, by Presence of Faith.
But least M. Hardinge take occasion hereof, to saie, This is a Fantastical, and a Vaine kinde of seeinge, Let him remember the woordes that S. Hierome writeth to Paula, and Eustochium, touchinge theire aboade at Bethleem.