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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 8 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 8 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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The B. of Salisbury.
The B. of Sarisburie.
First, this Authority here alleged, is not to be found, neither in S. Augustine, in whose name it is brought, nor in the sentences of Prosper. As for Gratian, M. Harding knoweth, he is a Common Falsifier of the Doctors, and therefore his credit in such cases cannot be great. Notwithstanding touching the matter, we know, that Bread, Wine, and Water, of them self be nothing else, but corruptible, and simple Creatures. If we conceive none otherwise of them, then they be of them self, then all our Sacraments be in vain. Therefore the godly Fathers labour evermore, to draw us from the outward visible Creatures, to the meaning & substance of the Sacraments.1 And to that end S. Augustine saith, In Sacramentis videndum est, non, quid sint, sed, quid Significent. In Sacraments we must consider, not, what they be in deed, but, what they Signify. So it is written in the Council of Nice.2 Vides Aquam? Cogita Divinam Vim quae in Aqua late•. Seest thou the Water of Baptism? (it is not that, it was before) consider thou that Heavenly Power, that lieth hidden in the Water. So Chrysostom saith, Antequam Sanctificetur Panis, panem nominamus: Divina autem Sanctificante illum Gratia, mediante sacerdote, liberatus est quidem ab appellatione Panis: dignus autem habitus est Dominici Corporis appellation: etiamsi Natura Panis in illo rema•serit. The Bread before it is Sanctified, is called Bread: but being sanctified by the Heavenly Grace, by mean of the Priest, it is delivered from the name of Bread, and thought worthy of the name of the Lords Body: notwithstanding the Nature of Bread remain in it still. Thus, as Chrysostom saith, The Bread remaineth still Bread, in his former Kind & Substance: without any such Transubstantiation, or change of nature, as is now imagined. The words be plain: M. Harding cannot deny them. And yet notwithstanding, it is not the thing, it was before: because it is also called the Lords Body. So likewise saith S. Augustine, Quicunque in Manna Christum intellexerunt,