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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 10 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 10 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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But M. Harding will reply, This Ambrose saith, Figura Panis, & Vini videtur: The Figure of Bread, and Wine is seen: Therefore we must needs confess, there are Accidents without a Subject. If any Old Writer, Greek, or Latin: learned, or unlearned, ever used this Word, Figura, in this sense, to wite, to signify a Show alone without any Substance, then may M. Harding seem to say somewhat. If never any writer used it so, then have we good cause, to doubt his Conclusion. Verily, to leave other old writers of all sorts, S. Ambrose him self saith, Christus apparet in Figura Humana. Christ appeareth in the Form, or Figure of a Man. 1And S. Paul saith to like purpose, Formam Serui accepit: Christ took upon him the Form of a Servant. I think, M. Harding will not warrant us upon the force of these words,2 that Christ had only the Shape, and Show, and not the very Substance, and Nature of a Mans Body. For in so saying, he should seem openly to favour the Old condemned Heresy of the Manichees. In saying otherwise, this word, Figura, cannot further his purpose.
But M. Hardinge wil replie, This Ambrose saith, Figura Panis, & Vini videtur: The Figure of Breade, and VVine is seene: Therefore we must needes confesse, there are Accidentes without a Subiecte. If any Olde Writer, Greeke, or Latine: learned, or vnlearned, euer vsed this Woorde, Figura, in this sense, to wite, to signifie a Shewe alone without any Substance, then maie M. Hardinge seeme to saie somewhat. If neuer any writer vsed it so, then haue we good cause, to doubte his Conclusion. Uerily, to leaue other olde writers of al sortes, S. Ambrose him self saith, Christus apparet in Figura Humana. Christe appeareth in the Forme, or Figure of a Man. 1And S. Paule saith to like purpose, Formam Serui accepit: Christe tooke vpon him the Forme of a Seruant. I thinke, M. Hardinge wil not warrant vs vpon the force of these woordes,2 that Christe had onely the Shape, and Shewe, and not the very Substance, and Nature of a Mannes Bodie. For in so saieinge, he shoulde seeme openly to fauoure the Olde condēned Heresie of the Manichees. In saieinge otherwise, this woorde, Figura, cannot further his purpose.