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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 12 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 12 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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It appeareth, that these mens Doctrine is much mutable, and subject to change. For notwithstanding they be now grown into some better liking of these terms, Figure, Sign, Signification, Token, &c. Yet not long sithence they seemed, to be otherwise resolved: and thought them selves able to allege Theophylactus, Damascenus, Euthymius, and other great matter, to disprove the same.1 D. Tonstal, the more to make the matter odious, saith thus, If the Sacrament be a Figure of Christs Body, then was a Figure Crucified for us, and not Christ. And what so ever they were, that used this word, Figura, in this matter of the Sacrament, D. Stevin Gardiner scornfully calleth them,2 Figuratores, Figurers. And M. John White, late Schoolmaster, & after Bishop of Winton writeth thus, in great scorn against that most Reverend learned Father D. Peter Martyr, touching the same: Audio mille locis Corpus: non audio (Petre) Signa, Troposque, tuo nec Symbola nata cerebro. I hear Body, Body, in a thousand places: But of Signs, Figures, Tokens, that came only out of thy head, I hear nothing. Which words notwithstanding, in all the Ancient learned Fathers, by M. Hardinges own Confession, if he had had ears to hear, he might have heard. Therefore it was neither Malice, nor Ignorance, nor Increase of heap, nor Want of other stuff, but the fondness, and folly of M. Hardinges side, that added this Article to the rest.
It appeareth, that these mennes Doctrine is muche mutable, and subiecte to change. For notwithstandinge they be nowe growen into some better likinge of these termes, Figure, Signe, Signification, Token, &c. Yet not longe sithence they seemed, to be otherwise resolued: and thought them selues hable to allege Theophylactus, Damascenus, Euthymius, and other greate mater, to disproue the same.1 D. Tonstal, the more to make the mater odiouse, saith thus, If the Sacrament be a Figure of Christes Bodie, then was a Figure Crucified for vs, and not Christe. And what so euer they were, that vsed this woorde, Figura, in this mater of the Sacrament, D. Steuin Gardiner scornefully calleth them,2 Figuratores, Figurers. And M. Iohn White, late Schoolemaister, & after Bishop of Winton writeth thus, in great scorne against that most Reuerēde learned Father D. Peter Martyr, touchinge the same: Audio mille locis Corpus: non audio (Petre) Signa, Troposque, tuo nec Symbola nata cerebro. I heare Bodie, Bodie, in a thousande places: But of Signes, Figures, Tokens, that came onely out of thy heade, I heare nothinge. Whiche woordes notwithstandinge, in al the Ancient learned Fathers, by M. Hardinges owne Confession, if he had had eares to heare, he might haue hearde. Therefore it was neither Malice, nor Ignorance, nor Increase of heape, nor Wante of other stuffe, but the fondnes, and folie of M. Hardinges side, that added this Article to the rest.