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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 12 › M. Harding. The .2. Division.Article 12 › M. Hardinge. The .2. Diuision.
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M. Harding. The .2. Division.
M. Hardinge. The .2. Diuision.
For the Better understanding of such places, where these terms are used in the matter of the Sacrament,1 the Doctrine of S. Augustine In Sententijs Prosperi, may serve very well, which is thus. Hoc est quod dicimus, quod omnibus modis approbare contendimus, Sacrificium Ecclesiae doubus confici, duobus constare, visibili Elementorum Specie, & inuisibili Domini nostri Jesu Christi Carne & Sanguine: Sacramento, (id est, externo Sacro Signo) & re Sacramenti, id est, Corpore Christi, &c. This is that we say, (saith he) which by all means we go about to prove, that the Sacrifice of the Church is made of two things, and consisteth of two things, of the visible shape of the elements (which are Bread and Wine) and the invisible Flesh and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ: Of the Sacrament, (that is the outward Sign) and the thing of the Sacrament, to wit, of the Body of Christ, &c. By this we understand, that this word (Sacrament) is of the Fathers two ways taken. First, for the whole Substance of the Sacrament, as it consisteth of the outward Forms, and also withal of the very Body of Christ verily present, as S. Augustine saith, the Sacrifice of the Church to consist (186)2 of these two. Secondly, it is taken so, as it is distinct from that hidden, and divine thing of the Sacrament, that is to say, for the outward Forms only, which are the Holy Sign of Christs very Body presen•e under them contained. Whereof we must gather, that when so ever the Fathers do call this most excellent Sacrament, a Figure, or a Sign, (187)3 they would be understanded to mean none otherwise, then of those outward Forms, and not of Christs Body it self, which is there present not Typically, or Figuratively, but Really, and Substantially. Onlesse perhaps respect he had, not to the Body it self present, but to the manner of presence, as sometimes it happeneth.