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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 12 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 12 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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Now let us examine the ground of M. Hardinges guesses. S. Augustine nameth Visibilem Speciem, the visible kind of the Elements: Ergo, saith M. Harding, he meaneth only the Accidents, or outward Forms of Bread, and Wine, and not the Substance. The weakness of this Conclusion proceedeth of the misunderstanding of the Terms. For S. Augustine in this place, useth not this word (Species) for the outward Show,1 but for the very Substance of the thing it self. So S. Ambrose saith twice together in one place, Sermo Dei Species mutat elementorum: The Word of God changeth the Kinds of the Elements: And again, Ante benedictionem alia Species nominatur: Before the Consecration it is called an other Kind. In these and other like places, M. Harding cannot well say, that, Species, signifieth an Accident, or outward Show.
Nowe let vs examine the grounde of M. Hardinges gheasses. S. Augustine nameth Visibilem Speciem, the visible kinde of the Elementes: Ergo, saith M. Harding, he meaneth onely the Accidentes, or outwarde Formes of Breade, and VVine, and not the Substance. The weakenesse of this Conclusion procéedeth of the misvnderstandinge of the Termes. For S. Augustine in this place, vseth not this woorde (Species) for the outwarde Shewe,1 but for the very Substance of the thinge it selfe. So S. Ambrose saithe twise togeather in one place, Sermo Dei Species mutat elementorum: The Woorde of God changeth the Kindes of the Elementes: And againe, Ante benedictionem alia Species nominatur: Before the Consecration it is called an other Kinde. In these and other like places, M. Hardinge cannot wel say, that, Species, signifieth an Accident, or outwarde Shewe.
- 1Ambrosius de ijs qui init•an••r. Ca. 9.
Neither doth this word, Visible, import any such External Form, as is here imagined: But only excludeth the Body of Christ, which is in Heaven, Invisible to our Bodily eyes, and Visible only to the eyes of our Faith. And so the Water in Baptism is called, Forma Visibilis, a Visible Kind, or Element, according to the general Definition of all Sacraments. So S. Augustine saith, Aliud Judaei habebant, aliud nos: