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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 1 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 1 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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Now let us examine this reason: The Communion hath his name of the effect, for that it joineth us unto God: Ergo, saith M. Harding, it signifieth not the communicating of many together. Surely this argument is very weak: I will not say, It is unlearned, or proceedeth of ignorance. He should need a new Logic, that would assay to make it good.
Now let vs examine this reason: The Communion hath his name of the effect, for that it ioyneth vs vnto God: Ergo, sayth M. Hardinge, it signifieth not the communicatinge of many togeather. Surely this argument is very weake: I wil not say, It is vnlearned, or procéedeth of ignorance. He shoulde néede a newe Logique, that would assay to make it good.
Nay, it may much better be replied: what effect can this Sacrament have, or whom can it join to God, but only such as do receive it? Or what effect can the Sacrament of Baptism work, but only in them that receive Baptism? Without all question, the effect that Dionysius meant, standeth not in this, that one man saith a Private Mass, and receiveth the Sacrament alone: but in this that the people prayeth, and receiveth the holy Communion together, & thereby doth openly testify, that they be all one in Christ Jesus, and all one amongst them selves.1 And therefore Chrysostom sayeth, Proptereà in Mysterijs alter al•erum amplectimur, ut unum multi fiamus. For that cause in the time of the Mysteries we embrace one an other, that being many, we may become one.
Nay, it may muche better be replied: what effecte can this Sacrament haue, or whome canne it ioyne to God, but onely suche as doo receiue it? Or what effecte can the Sacrament of Baptisme worke, but onely in them that receiue Baptisme? Without al question, theffecte that Dionysius meante, standeth not in this, that one man saithe a Priuate Masse, and receiueth the Sacrament alone: but in this that the people prayeth, and receiueth the holy Communion togeather, & thereby dothe openly testifie, that they be al one in Christe Iesus, and al one emongst them selues.