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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 12 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 12 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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But if, as M. Harding saith, Tertullian understood not Christs meaning, what if some man would likewise say, M. Harding understandeth not Tertullians meaning? And what if the simple Reader understand not M. Hardinges meaning? It were to much to say further, M. Harding understandeth not his own meaning. Verily Tertullian not once nameth any one of all these M. ⟨p. 460⟩Hardinges strange Fantasies, neither Form, nor Accident, nor Visible, nor Invisible, nor Outward Element, nor Secrete Presence, nor Really, nor Substantially, nor I know not what. He wrote, and meant plainly in these cases, as others the learned Fathers wrote, and meant.
But if, as M. Hardinge saith, Tertullian vnderstoode not Christes meaning, what if some man woulde likewise say, M. Hardinge vnderstandeth not Tertullians meaninge? And what if the simple Reader vnderstande not M. Hardinges meaninge? It were to muche to say further, M. Hardinge vnderstandeth not his owne meaninge. Uerily Tertullian not once nameth any one of al these M. ⟨p. 460⟩Hardinges strange Fantasies, neither Forme, nor Accident, nor Uisible, nor Inuisible, nor Outwarde Element, nor Secrete Presence, nor Really, nor Substantially, nor I know not what. He wrote, and meante plainely in these cases, as others the learned Fathers wrote, and meante.
And touching the words of Christ, This is my Body, he saith not, These Shows, or Accidents of Bread, as M. Harding full unadvisedly expoundeth him, but, this Bread is my Body. Wherein he hath the consent both of the Scriptures, and also of the Ancient Doctors of the Church. S. Paul saith (Not the outward Form,1 or Accident, but) The Bread, that we Break, is the Participation of Christs Body. Irenaeus saith, Panis, in quo Gratiae actae sunt, est Corpus Domini. The Breade, wherein thanks are given, is the Body of the Lord. Origen saithe,