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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 12 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 12 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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The difference, that M. Harding hath devised between Christs Body in Substance, and the self same Body in respect of qualities, is a vain Gloss of his own, without Substance. For S. Augustine saith not, as M. Harding would fain have him to say, Ye shall not Eat this Body (with your bodily mouth) Quale videtis, under such Conditions, and qualities of Mortality, and Corruption, as you now see it: but, Quod videtis, that is, You shall not eat the same Body in Nature, and Substance, that now ye see.
The difference, that M. Hardinge hath diuised bytweene Christes Bodie in Substance, and the self same Bodie in respecte of qualities, is a vaine Glose of his owne, without Substance. For S. Augustine saith not, as M. Hardinge woulde faine haue him to saie, Ye shal not Eate this Bodie (with your bodily mouth) Quale videtis, vnder suche Conditions, and qualities of Mortalitie, and Corruption, as yowe nowe see it: but, Quod videtis, that is, Yowe shal not eate the same Bodie in Nature, and Substance, that nowe ye sée.
Neither was the Body of Christ at that time, when he Ministered the holy Communion, and spake these words to his Disciples, endowed with any such qualities. For it was neither Spiritual, nor Invisible, nor Immortal: but contrariwise, Earthly, Visible, and subject to Death.
Neither was the Bodie of Christe at that time, when he Ministred the holy Communion, and spake these woordes to his Disciples, endewed with any suche qualities. For it was neither Spiritual, nor Inuisible, nor Immortal: but contrarywise, Earthly, Uisible, and subiecte to Death.
To be short, S. Augustine speaketh not one word, neither of this Carnal Presence: nor of Secrete Being under Covert: nor saith, as M. Harding saith, that the very Body of Christ is a Figure of Christs Body: nor imagineth in Christ two sundry sorts of Natural Bodies: nor knoweth any one of all these M. Hardinges strange Collections. Thus only he saith, Non hoc Corpus, quod videtis, manducaturi estis: Touching your Bodily mouth, Ye shall not Eat this Body of mine, that ye see. Of which words M. Harding, contrary to S. Augustine's express, and plain meaning, as his common wont is, concludeth the contrary: Ergo, with your Bodily Mouth, ye shall eat this self same Body in Substance, that ye see.