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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 12 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 12 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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To be short, S. Augustine speaketh not one word, neither of this Carnal Presence: nor of Secrete Being under Covert: nor saith, as M. Harding saith, that the very Body of Christ is a Figure of Christs Body: nor imagineth in Christ two sundry sorts of Natural Bodies: nor knoweth any one of all these M. Hardinges strange Collections. Thus only he saith, Non hoc Corpus, quod videtis, manducaturi estis: Touching your Bodily mouth, Ye shall not Eat this Body of mine, that ye see. Of which words M. Harding, contrary to S. Augustine's express, and plain meaning, as his common wont is, concludeth the contrary: Ergo, with your Bodily Mouth, ye shall eat this self same Body in Substance, that ye see.
To be shorte, S. Augustine speaketh not one woorde, neither of this Carnal Presence: nor of Secrete Beinge vnder Couerte: nor saith, as M. Hardinge saithe, that the very Bodie of Christe is a Figure of Christes Bodie: nor imagineth in Christe two sundrie sortes of Natural Bodies: nor knoweth any one of al these M. Hardinges strange Collections. Thus onely he saith, Non hoc Corpus, quod videtis, manducaturi estis: Touchinge your Bodily mouth, Ye shal not Eate this Bodie of mine, that ye see. Of whiche woordes M. Hardinge, contrary to S. Augustines expresse, and plaine meaninge, as his common wonte is, concludeth the contrary: Ergo, with youre Bodily Mouth, ye shal eate this self same Bodie in Substance, that ye see.
Now, for as much as M. Harding will say, We devise Figures of our selves without cause, and that Christs words are plain, and ought simply to be taken, as they sound, without any manner Figure, I think it therefore necessary in few words to show, both what hath lead us, and all the Ancient Writers, and Old Doctors of the Church, thus to expound the Words of Christ: and also, how many, and how strange, and monstrous Figures M. Harding with his Brethren are driven to use in the Exposition of the same. And to pass over all the Old learned Fathers, which in their writings commonly call the Sacrament §1a Representation, a Remembrance, a Memory, an Image, a Likeness, a Sampler, a Token, a Sign, and a Figure, &c. Christ him self before all others, seemeth to lead us hereunto, both for that at the very Institution of the holy Mysteries he said thus, Do ye this in Remembrance of me: And also, for that in the