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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 13 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 13 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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The B. of Salisbury.
The B. of Sarisburie.
M. Harding of his courtesy should give us leave, to lay out our own reckonings, as we think best, having him self the advantage of controlment, if error happen to fall out. Of so great a number of Masses, as they have this day in their Churches, and say, they have had, and continued from the beginning, even from the Apostles time, if I require of him only the proof of five, I offer him no wrong: But, if he of that whole number, be able to show but only two, and if the same two in the end be found no Masses neither, but only public Communions, such as be now used in Reformed Churches, then is he a great dissembler, and doth no right. Upon what occasion M. Hardinges Masses grew first to this plenty, and to so great waste, Cochlaeus one of the chief patrons of that cause declareth it thus:1 Quòd olim tam frequentes non fuerint Missae, neque tot Sacerdotes, quot hodiè, inde accidisse arbitror, quòd olim omnes tum Sacerdotes, tum Laici, quicunque intererant Sacrificio Missae, peracta oblatione, cum Sacrificante communicabant: sicut ex Canonibus Apostolorum, & ex Libris, atque Epistolis antiquissimorum Ecclesiae Doctorum perspicuè cognoscitur. That in old times there were not so many Masses, nor so many Priests, as be now, I reckon the cause thereof to be this: for that in old times, all, that were present at the Sacrifice of the Mass, as well Priests, as Lay men, did Communicate together with the Minister, as it is plain to be seen by the Canons of the Apostles, and by the Books, and Letters of the most Ancient Doctors of the Church. He addeth further, Nunc verò &c. But now, seeing the order of Communion is no more observed amongst us, and that through the negligence, and slothfulness, as well of the Lay people, as of the Priests, the Holy Ghost by the often saying of Private Masses, hath found out godly remedy for this want. Here we see, that Negligence, and Slothfulness, & Lack of Devotion, both in the people, and in the Priest, is a good leare to breed Masses. And that the Priests, as many as were present, did then Communicate with the Priest,