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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Preface: ¶AN ANSWER TO M. Hardinges Preface.Preface: ¶AN ANSVVEARE TO M. Hardinges Preface.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
The difference of these sayings standeth only in this, that the one is true, the other untrue: That your Affirmative cannot be proved: My Negative ⟨image 5⟩cannot be reproved. But, touching vaunt of reading, and knowledge, there is no difference.
The difference of these saieinges standeth onely in this, that the one is true, the other vntrue: That your Affirmatiue cannot be prooued: My Negatiue ⟨image 5⟩cannot bee reprooued. But, touchinge vaunte of readinge, and knowledge, there is no difference.
Howe be it, for as much as, this Negative so much offendeth you of our side, let us hardly turn it of your side: And let us say so, as it may best like you, to have us say: That it cannot appear, by any sufficient clause, or sentence, either of the Scriptures, or of the Old Doctors, or of the Ancient Councils, or by any Example of the Primitive Church, either, that the Priest then received the Holy Communion together with the people: or, that the Sacrament was then ministered unto the people under both kinds: or, that the public Prayers were ever said in the Vulgar, or Known tongue: or, that the whole people thereto said, Amen, within the space of six hundred years after Christ. Let us say further, that Christ him self, and all his Apostles said Private Mass, and received the Holy Sacrament severally alone: That all the Ancient Fathers ministered the half Communion only under One Kind: That all the Common Prayers were everywhere said in a strange Learned Tongue, utterly unknown unto the People. This offer is free, and liberal. And what can you desire more? But perhaps it shameth you to say so much. For, all be it some of you have often said it, yet the untruth thereof is manifest, and showeth it self.
Howe be it, for as muche as, this Negatiue so muche offendeth you of our side, let vs hardly turne it of your side: And let vs saie so, as it may bes•e like you, to haue vs saie: That it cannot appeare, by any sufficient clause, or sentence, either of the Scriptures, or of the Olde Doctours, or of the Ancient Councelles, or by any Example of the Primitiue Churche, either, that the Prieste then receiued the Holy Communion togeather with the people: or, that the Sacrament was then ministred vnto the people vnder bothe kindes: or, that the publique Praiers were euer saide in the Uulgare, or Knowen tongue: or, that the whole people thereto saide, Amen, within the space of sixe hundred yéeres after Christe. Let vs saie further, that Christe him selfe, and al his Apostles saide Priuate Masse, and receiued the Holy Sacramente seuerally alone: That al the Ancient Fathers ministred the halfe Communion onely vnder One Kinde: That al the Common Praiers were euerywhere saide in a strange Learned Tongue, vtterly vnknowen vnto the People. This offer is frée, and liberal. And what can you desire more? But perhaps it shameth you to saie so muche. For, al be it some of you haue often saide it, yet the vntrueth thereof is manifest, and sheweth it selfe.