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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 14 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 14 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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The case standing thus, what then availeth M. Hardinges distinction of Latria and Doulia?1 I fear me, we may say of him, and his fellows, as S. Augustine sometime said of the Heathens: Nemo mihi dica•, Non est Numen: non est Deus. V•inam ipsi sic norint, quomodo novimus nos. Sed quid habeant, pro qua re habeant, quid ibi faciant, Ara testatur. Let no man say unto me, It is no Divine Power: it is no God. I would to God, they so knew it, as we know it. But what they have, and in what sort they have it, and what they do about it, the Altar beareth witness.
The case standinge thus, what then auaileth M. Hardinges distinction of Latria and Doulia?1 I feare me, wee may say of him, and his felowes, as S. Augustine sometime saide of the Heathens: Nemo mihi dica•, Non est Numen: non est Deus. V•inam ipsi sic norint, quomodo nouimus nos. Sed quid habeant, pro qua re habeant, quid ibi faciant, Ara testatur. Let noman say vnto mee, It is no Diuine Power: it is no God. I woulde to God, they so knewit, as wee know it. But what they haue, and in what sorte they haue it, and what they doo aboute it, the Aultar beareth witnesse.
- 1Augustin. De Verbis Domi. Secundum Ma• thae. Sermo. 6.
Marcellina the Heretic is much reproved by S. Augustine, 1for that, among other Images, she offered up incense to the Image of Christ. And Origen saith, Fieri non potest, ut quis & Deum, & Simulachrum colat. It is not possible, that any man may worship God, and an Image both together. And Polydorus Uerglius a man of late years, uttering the great abuse, that he saw in the Church in his time, writeth thus: Nunc de Simulachorum culu agamus: quem non modò nostrae Religionis expertes, sed, teste Hieronymo, omnes ferè Veteres Sancti Patres damnabant, ob metū Idololatriae. Now let us entreat of the worshipping of Images: which not only the Heathens, that were void of our Religion, but also, as S. Hierome saith, all the Old Godly Fathers condemned, for fear of Idolatry.