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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 1 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 1 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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To condition of a place, saith M. Harding, were mere Jewish: for as S. Paul saith to the Galatians, ye observe months and days, so might he say unto you, ye observe places. Thus he saith, as though he him self had no choice of place to say his Mass in.1 He moveth talk of place, whereof we had no question: but the number of Communicants, whereof S. Paul so plainly speaketh, he thought best to salve with silence. If these men account all utter things to be worldly Elements, then must they take away the Bread and Wine in the holy Ministration: the water in Baptism: the words of the Gospel: the whole Ministry, and all kind of Civil policy. Al these be utter creatures, given to us by God, to be used freely, without servile observation, or subjection of Conscience. For God hath appointed these things for us, not us for them.
To condition of a place, saithe M. Hardinge, were meere Iewishe: for as S. Paule saithe to the Galathians, ye obserue monethes and dayes, so might he say vnto you, ye obserue places. Thus he saithe, as though he him selfe had no choise of place to say his Masse in.1 He moueth talke of place, whereof we had no question: but the number of Communicantes, whereof S. Paule so plainely speaketh, he thought beste to salue with silence. If these men accoumpte al vtter thinges to be worldly Elementes, then must they take away the Breade and Wine in the holy Ministration: the water in Baptisme: the woordes of the Gospel: the whole Ministerie, and al kinde of Ciuile policie. Al these be vtter creatures, geuen to vs by God, to be vsed fréely, without seruile obseruation, or subiection of Conscience. For God hath appointed these thinges for vs, not vs for them.
- 1M. Harding shifteth number into place.M. Hardinge shifteth number into place.
But will our adversaries now at last defend the Liberty of the Church, or