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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 16 › M. Harding. The .2. Division.Article 16 › M. Hardinge. The .2. Diuision.
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M. Harding. The .2. Division.
M. Hardinge. The .2. Diuision.
The Greeks in the East Church have thought it good, to pronounce the words of Consecration Clara voce, as we find in Chrysostoms Mass, and as Bessarion writeth, A•ta voce, that is plainly, out Aloud, or with a loud voice. Sacerdos Alta voce •uxta Orientalis Ecclesiae ritum verba illa pronunciat, Hoc est Corpus meum: The Priest, saith Bessarion, after the rite, or manner of the East Church pronounceth with a loud voice these words, This is my Body. Which manner of Loud pronouncing was thought good, to be used in the Greek Church, as it may be gathered by that Bessarion writeth (who being a Greek borne, and brought up in learning amongst the Greeks, knew right well the order of that Church) to the intent the people might thereby, for the better maintenance of their Faith, be stirred, and warned to give token of consent, and of belief thereto. When the Priest, saith he, pronounceth those words with a loud voice, the people standing by, • n utraque part, that is, first at the Consecration of the Body, and again at the Consecration of the Blood, answereth, Amen: as though they said thus, Truly so it is, as thou sayest. For, where as, Amen, is an Adverb of Affirming in Hebrew, in Greek it signifieth so much, as Truly. And therefore the people answering Amen, to those words, Verily,1 say they, these gifts set forth are the Body, and Blood of Christ. So we believe, So we confess. This far Bessarion. It is declared by Clement Lib. 8. Constitutionum Apostolicarum, that the people said Amen, when the words of Consecration had been pronounced. Whereby we understand, that order to have been taken by the Apostles. The same Custom also may be gathered out of S. Ambrose, who saith thus: Dicit tibi Sacerdos, Corpus Christi: & tu dicis, Amen, hoc est, verum. Quod confitetur lingua, teneat affectus. De Sacram. li. 4. ca. 5. The Priest saith, The Body of Christ: and thou sayest, Amen, that is to say, True. Hold with thy heart that, which thou confessest with the tongue. He saith likewise hereof, De ijs, qui initiantur Mysterijs, ca. 9. Frustrà ab illis respondetur, Amen, &c. Amen is answered in vain by them, who dispute against that, which is received, saithe Leo. Sermone 6. De Jeiunio 7. Mensis.