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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 16 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 16 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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M. Harding addeth hereto: Amen, is as much as, Verum est, It is true. And therefore the People answering, Amen, confessed thereby, that they believed the very Real, and Substantial Changing of the Bread into the Body of Christ. It was needless, and out of season to renew this matter in this place. But he thought it better skill, to speak from the purpose, then utterly to hold his peace, and to say nothing.
M. Hardinge addeth hereto: Amen, is as muche as, Verum est, It is true. And therefore the People answearinge, Amen, confessed thereby, that they beleeued the very Real, and Substantial Changinge of the Breade into the Bodie of Christe. It was needelesse, and owt of season to renewe this mater in this place. But he thought it better skil, to speake from the purpose, then vtterly to holde his peace, and to saie nothinge.
First, as it is said before, The Latin Church never received this new Belief, before the Council of Lateran holden in Rome:1 the Greek Church never until this day. Therefore by M. Hardinges skill the people thus answering, said, Amen, to that thing, that they believed not: and so Confirmed the Child eight hundred years, and more, before it was borne. In deed, The people said, Amen, to that, they heard spoken by the Priest. But the Priest spake nothing, neither of Real Presence: nor of Transubstantiation: nor of Accidents without Subject. Therefore it is not likely, the Peoples answer had relation to any such matter. Otherwise they should seem to answer that thing, that was not spoken. The Priest only uttered these Words of Christ, This is my ⟨p. 547⟩Body: Whereunto the Greeks make answer in this sort, as it is recorded in the Council of Florence,2 Firmiter credimus, Verbis illis Dominicis Sacramentum fieri. We beleve steadfastly, that by these words of our Lord there is made a Sacrament.